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03/01/2007, 03:12 PM
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Yea, but it might be different, I'm not sure. I'm just about to ask the same question and ADD fish and inverts too?
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04/03/2007, 09:27 PM
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I just did it as a preventative measure but i think i ma have over dipped? Is it possible to use to much iodine?
I set my bucket with about a gallon and a half of ro/di and brought it to temp/ph, I then added about 15 - 20 drops of lugols and 4-6 drops of flatworm exit. I let them sit in the dip for about 5 mins and i shook and twisted and blasted with a turkey baster. The thing is they slimed this clear jelly lookin stuff? Has anyone else ever seen this? Then once in my reef i noticed they seemed to shed a layer of skin off, is this normal after a dip? belive it or not they are opening already but im almost sure i overdid it. |
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08/25/2007, 04:42 PM
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#206
09/03/2007, 12:47 AM
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I used this dip on 5 zoa rocks this evening, wearing disposable reef gloves on both hands. I killed a couple of nudis and one egg sack. When I was done I noticed water had gotten into both gloves...typical for the disposables.
That reminded me that zoas are EXTREMELY DEADLY POISONOUS and I think people should be reminded to wear good quality reef gloves. Especially considering that you will be gripping the zoa rocks quite tightly in order to swoosh them around in the dip properly. The thin disposable gloves are not safe enough, IMO, to use while doing this procedure. better safe than sorry (or dead) |
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09/03/2007, 03:13 AM
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I too would be interested in seeing some pics of zoa fungus. I cant figure out what is happening to my zoas. I dont think it is pox I cant see any big bumps just a few smaller than sand. My polys started out getting some red stuff on them that I cant brush off. It started with a few polyps on a couple colonies and now it is on 4 or 5 big colonies and a lot of frags,destroying all of them. Ive dipped almost every zoa I have and it hasnt seemed to help.Ive pulled a few nudis and had a big outbreak of sundial snails,Ive gotten almost all of the snails by picking them off the rocks but it hasnt seemed to help the zoas at all they seem to continue to get worse. I havent really seen any pics or read any discussions that sound like my problem. I dont think its anything with light or flow or water quality because a lot of the colonies will be open but once a poly turns red it never opens again and it progresses steadily across the colony. Has anyone had anything similar happen? Does it sound like predators or fungus? I can post some pics,I posted about this a couple of weeks ago with pics and got no response since then Ive lost about half of my zoas.
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09/07/2007, 10:25 PM
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Well I've done this dip 3 times now, 2-3 days apart. The third time I did it, most of my zoas won't open at all, even after 24 hours! I dipped several zoa covered rocks, so it's quite a few polyps that aren't opening. I'm worried....
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09/08/2007, 04:34 PM
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Is it normal for the zoas and palys that were dipped to look crappy?? I did everything exactly like it said in the begining of this forum. It appears that some of the palys expelled thier zooanthella. (spelling??)
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09/29/2007, 10:46 AM
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#211
09/29/2007, 11:57 AM
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oh. I wear gloves when I handle them.
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09/29/2007, 04:52 PM
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If you think it's extreme to wear gloves/goggles when handling zoanthids, you haven't done enough research on palytoxin....
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10/02/2007, 12:08 PM
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I think it's better safe, than being sorry.
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11/14/2007, 10:31 AM
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ok read the entire thread, Mucho, sounds like you are DA MAN
I'm (hopefully) getting 8 zoa colonies today, will find/buy Lugol's. My question: the procedure I'm reading is from bag --> freshwater dip --> acclimation . Is there a good reason not to acclimate in a separate bucket, THEN freshwater dip, THEN into the display tank? What I do (the norm, I assume) is acclimate animal to tank water while in a separate bucket, and then put into the tank. This zoa dip is new to me, as zoas are new to me. I plan to acclimate critters to tank water in a bucket, then freshwater dip, then take out of dip and put into display tank, which by that time is the same water as the acclimation bucket. Is that so wrong? G. |
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11/14/2007, 01:15 PM
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OK, I've been looking at all the local fish stores for Lugol's , either they don't carry it or they're out of it. I have a shipment of zoa's coming in (hopefully) today.
I plan on getting Lugol's for future use, but for this shipment.. I WAS able to acquire Iodine Tinture (sp?) solution, ingredients are 100% iodine tinture, active ingredient is 2% iodine. This MSDS I'm quoting below says that Lugol's is 5% iodine. What does everyone think of using 250% the amount of drops used for Lugol's with my Iodine Tinture solution? Mucho's formula: Lugol's solution: 5 drops/gallon of RO, @ 5% iodine My idea: iodine tinture solution: 12 drops/gallon of RO @ 2% iodine there is no Potassium Iodide in the bottle I picked up. G. Quote:
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#217
11/26/2007, 08:15 AM
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I wonder if i can use this material for iod or not to dip zoas.
http://www.zoocentras.lt/product_inf...5&osCsid=21c0b
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12/01/2007, 07:05 AM
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There are lots of dips out there, just find the one you like and give it a try. If you can share the results, it helps all of us out in the future.
Mucho
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12/03/2007, 05:31 AM
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AS there is no concentration % of iodine in this material how many drops should i try 1st? And is it any danger for zoas if i put too much iod in the dip?
So these r the steps right? 1. get ro water 2. put some iod into it (amount unknown for now  )3. Test ph and temp 4. Dip the colony about 3-5 minute 5. shake the colony like u have never shaked before. 6. Put colony back and prey
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12/04/2007, 06:34 AM
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I did the dip and here is the latest pictures. I dropped 2-3 to 2lt water which i think is really high amount but we will see.
All the visible nubi's r dead as far as i can tell from looking at the leftovers in the dip can. I shaked a lot but still there r some dead nubi bodies left. Please feel free to give opinion about the chain type things (probably nubi eggs) hanging from zoas.   
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12/04/2007, 07:39 PM
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Most of the sponsors here that sell "dry goods" have it. But just in case here is a link to Marine Depots site. http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...e~vendor~.html The chain like things coming off the zoanthids and palys ( maybe protopaly's) look like slime. Sometimes they give off a slime when they get super stressed. Most egg clusters I've seen tend to be in a tight spiral pattern and don't come off the zoanthid unless scrubbed off. |
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