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Old 10/25/2007, 08:37 AM
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Some things I don't understand

A local woman was recently beat into a coma by her boyfriend, who then set fire to her house (twice) while she was in the hospital. He was 33, she is 40.

A candlelight vigil/fundraiser for her was held last night. Her friends spoke out about what a wonderful person she is, and all the normal things you would expect a friend to say. Hundreds of friends and family were in attendance.

The part I don't understand: the boyfriend is a known meth addict, and has been jailed/in prison several times. No one deserves to be beaten into a coma, but I have to wonder why someone who is supposedly "bright, intelligent, funny" would let a convicted felon move in with her and at least one child. Couldn't one of the hundreds of friends and family had said to her, "Are you nuts"? before this guy makes a punching bag out of her?
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:41 AM
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hey, woman beating arsonist meth addicts need love too, maybe she had a big heart and thought she could save him
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:43 AM
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I would have told her but I don't have friends for that very reason. Very few people like that fact that I say what I think.
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:46 AM
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Well the people I know that are kind of like that, just have some kind of need to 'help' people. They have the delusion that they can change them.
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:47 AM
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a true friend stabs you in the front.
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:47 AM
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gotta agree with ya there Brian, unfortunetly its not the first time and wont be the last...
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:49 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwd5813
a true friend stabs you in the front. [/QUOTE

YEP, that's the way I see it.


BTW, your socks don't match.
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:50 AM
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I would have told her but I don't have friends for that very reason. Very few people like that fact that I say what I think.
you have friends - hugs

Now do these pants make my butt look big?.. u know like the Search engine makes Carries look big?
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:50 AM
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yes they do, just not each other!
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:51 AM
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http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/2007/1...a316073633.txt
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:53 AM
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you have friends - hugs

Now do these pants make my butt look big?.. u know like the Search engine makes Carries look big?

Nope no friends, just my keyboard and it loves me unconditionally.

No the pants don't but that hat makes your head look big.
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:53 AM
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she allowed it because she has ZERO self esteem, doesn't think a "normal" man would want any part of her, she takes the first thing that comes along because she's terrified of being alone. you can bet it isn't her first abusive relationship and if she lives through this one, it won't be her last.
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Old 10/25/2007, 08:57 AM
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Ok, people may be forgetting that maybe the guy wasn't always like this. Maybe he became addicted after they had been dating some time, and its not easy to leave someone you love when they are in need of help. Sometimes it is the only thing you can do, but its still not easy!
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:01 AM
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Ok, people may be forgetting that maybe the guy wasn't always like this. Maybe he became addicted after they had been dating some time, and its not easy to leave someone you love when they are in need of help. Sometimes it is the only thing you can do, but its still not easy!
Based on his rap sheet, unelss she was dating him when he was 15, I think she knew what she was getting.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:05 AM
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http://www.judici.com/courts/cases/c...NATHY,%20JASON

The above link is to his arrest record just in this county, going back 15 years. At least one case (I didn't look at all of them) was 3 years ago with an order of protection filed against him by a different woman.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:07 AM
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I think every person these days should request a criminal background check and a medical clearence before getting involved, don't you Brian?





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Old 10/25/2007, 09:12 AM
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I think every person these days should request a criminal background check and a medical clearence before getting involved, don't you Brian?
Meaning what?
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:17 AM
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Re: Some things I don't understand

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All things I don't understand
Fixed it for you.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:19 AM
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Unfortunately, when people are "in love" they don't listen to their friends and family. The abusive person also starts out slowly isolating the victim from family and friends and then starting the abuse which worsens over time. They also think that their love is different and the person will change. No one ever changes and the cycle is repeated.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:28 AM
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Aliie, sorry, my response didn't come across well. Remember that I live in a small community, and you really don't have to do background checks. This guy's troubles have been well-documented for years and years, and his name is well known.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:29 AM
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Carrie, that is very sad.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:37 AM
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I think every person these days should request a criminal background check and a medical clearence before getting involved, don't you Brian?






I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or serious, but to tell you the truth, I wouldn't blame people if they did do that nowadays.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:37 AM
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she allowed it because she has ZERO self esteem, doesn't think a "normal" man would want any part of her, she takes the first thing that comes along because she's terrified of being alone. you can bet it isn't her first abusive relationship and if she lives through this one, it won't be her last.
DING DING DING DING


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I've had unfortunately too much experience with family members in this area.
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:40 AM
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I think every person these days should request a criminal background check and a medical clearence before getting involved, don't you Brian?

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Meaning what?
I was just trying to say that it's not common for anyone to ask these kinds of questions of someone they are interested in having a relationship with.

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Aliie, sorry, my response didn't come across well. Remember that I live in a small community, and you really don't have to do background checks. This guy's troubles have been well-documented for years and years, and his name is well known.

If it was known by her before they started seeing eachother then she's just stupid IMO. If she wasn't from the same town or didn't know first but others that claim to be her friends did and never said anything, they are pieces of crap.


I totally see your point but humans rarely think rationally when it comes to emotions.

We're good though Right?
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Old 10/25/2007, 09:46 AM
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If it was known by her before they started seeing eachother then she's just stupid IMO. If she wasn't from the same town or didn't know first but others that claim to be her friends did and never said anything, they are pieces of crap.
My only question is how long does it take a person to figure out they are dating a drug addict? Especially someone addicted to meth. Even if it took a few months, you aren't so emotionally vested in the relationship that you can't get out. I think Nina hit the nail on the head. She won't leave this relationship ever. He may end it someday, but she won't.
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