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07/31/2006, 02:50 PM
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if we can figure out how to have longer pins in the wheel it should increase the output of the pump.
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07/31/2006, 02:56 PM
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After following your threads I was a bit dissappointed that I had already drilled my 12" tube for 4 oceanrunners! I think it's too late to apply a miny might at this point unless two of them forked into each OR hole would work :-) This is as far as I've gotten with it....
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07/31/2006, 03:00 PM
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07/31/2006, 03:04 PM
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That reminds me- do you think there would be any benefit to making a diffuser plate to place just above the outlets on the recirc pumps? The problem would be that the would be water going in and out of the holes at the same time....
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07/31/2006, 03:09 PM
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kentrob11,
Flush route the bottom inside the tube, then use your base to attach a lower diffuser / plumbing box. You can cover those side holes easily, or use them for feeding your input water. You'd gain 6-8" in height, but there is ALWAYS a way to make it work 
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07/31/2006, 03:11 PM
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We can get another 1/4 inch cut out of the cover without much trouble. Well a little trouble but the fun kind! You think another 1/4 inch would do it? Have you tried the diffusor with less but larger holes yet? As good as this one is working I wonder if the less larger diam holes would work better. This configuration works awesome. Just wondering...
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07/31/2006, 03:13 PM
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Actually the bottom isn't glued yet :-) Honestly, I think it would be too much of an eye sore to patch all of those holes up. I've gotta sell this thing in a year when I take everything down so I need to keep it looking half way decent :-P I'd love to take a crack at another skimmer though- I think the better route for me at this point would be trying to land the best pump available short of the 300$ Eheim to mount on this thing. The more I think about Oceanrunner 2700's, the less I like them...I think it will skim fine with them but ya know....
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07/31/2006, 03:32 PM
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We can get another 1/4 inch cut out of the cover without much trouble. Well a little trouble but the fun kind! You think another 1/4 inch would do it? Have you tried the diffusor with less but larger holes yet? As good as this one is working I wonder if the less larger diam holes would work better. This configuration works awesome. Just wondering...
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07/31/2006, 03:43 PM
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as far as the deffuser goes i dont want to do a bunch of testing with that until we have all the modifications done to the pump. if we get 20-30% more air than the existing setup can handle. until we know what the pump can do dont change anything. once we get the pump dialed in we can change the deffuser if need be.
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07/31/2006, 04:23 PM
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07/31/2006, 04:29 PM
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07/31/2006, 04:48 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. What I was thinking was to Lazer cut a disk a hair smaller than the inside diameter of the tubing and attach 3/4" acrylic rod "legs" to it so that it basically sat on the bottom of the inside of the skimmer with the actual disk an inch or so above the outlets of the recirc pumps. I figured I could extend the black pvc that comes out of the suction part of the 4 pumps down to about 1/4" from the bottom and remove the 45s from the oulets to keep from directing the bubbles downward. I know it wouldn't function as well as if it was made properly to begin with but do you think this would be better than without a diffuser plate at all?
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07/31/2006, 04:48 PM
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smjtkj how are you feeding your skimmer? is it straight off the overflow box gravity fed, or is it a pump in the sump?
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07/31/2006, 04:59 PM
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Will do....I've already got the acrylic so it wouldn't cost me anything so no harm done if it doesn't work right? The only thing that sucks is that the guy that operates the laser uses frikin corel draw so anything I draw up doesn't come out right when he loads it up.....
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07/31/2006, 10:42 PM
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kentrob11,
I think bubble plates are overused in many skimmers where they arent needed. With your skimmer, I think that it might hurt your performance more than help it. I would go with your setup as is...if anything to reduce turbulence, split the outlets of your mixing pumps into 2 or 3 each to split up the flow.... but keep them facing downwards.
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08/01/2006, 11:05 AM
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update pics
Well I have to say I am impressed with diffusor technology! Here are some pics from this morning to show how little turbulence is in the riser neck of the skimmer. This is a really small sewing needle for reference, not a pin! This is the bubbles in the riser neck. Typically you would see bubbles combining to form larger bubbles at this point in the riser neck. I assume it is due to the diffusor, but it may be the dome shaped cone. Whatever it is the foam is so stable it is scarry! Also I want to mention that I have added more air from the pump. So more air and no turbulence. I think it is allowing more air as the skimmer breaks in. Any way I am really excited about the performance if you couldn't tell!
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08/01/2006, 02:53 PM
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hahnmeister it seams like all your trying to do is pick another argument. this thread is not a place to pick a fight. its a place to share ideas and information not get everyones blood up. it seams you do this alot. i have see you on other threads doing the same thing your trying to do here.
im sure alot of people told eddison that he could never make the light bulb. taking a negitave stance on new ideas is just un-american. so please stop.
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08/01/2006, 06:20 PM
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I do have to say this.....I get bubbles that small using a beckett injector.....with a TON of turbulence inside the skimmer.
That said.....my skimmer is not sufficient for my tank and I am working on a needle wheeel upgrade........but I'm not sure that small bubbles are exclusive to diffuser type skimmers. John
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