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Old 02/28/2006, 01:29 AM
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The red sea shippment will arrive tomorrow, I'm going to buy two 4"Golden Butterfly, one 4" Purple Tang and one Golden Ragal Angel.
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Old 02/28/2006, 01:45 AM
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Still not sure if i believe this tank, if someone really really wanted to, you could place all of these fish in a tank for a short time..

But on the tother hand this totally blows the 1" per 5 gal out of the water, which would allow you 48" of fish with a 240 gal tank.. I added up all the fish, please dont chk math as its very late--approx-- 352.5" of fish in a 240 gal or 7.3" of fish per 5 gal.
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Old 02/28/2006, 08:36 AM
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I'm glad to accept the multitude of opinions and criticisms. In fact, I spend alot of time managing these fish, sometimes performing a water change every 3-5 hours. I observe their conditions daily, remove the dead, or to see if any are injured or ill. I do not enjoy all the work, but I persist diligently to ensure the longevity of these fish. 70% of my initial stock still lives today(whoa sounds like cycling there IMO) Started tank on Jan 2005. I like it when they all swim up to the surface during feeding time, the scene is quite magnificent and makes me feel satisfied.
w00t I speak chinglish...LOL.


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Old 02/28/2006, 09:40 AM
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Old 02/28/2006, 11:55 AM
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ohhh...looks like I missed a juicy post, darn it..
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Old 02/28/2006, 03:11 PM
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ohhh...looks like I missed a juicy post, darn it..
Me too, darn it. I miss 95.43% of the juicy posts.
(+/- .05%)
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Old 03/01/2006, 10:17 AM
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The red sea shippment will arrive tomorrow, I'm going to buy two 4"Golden Butterfly, one 4" Purple Tang and one Golden Ragal Angel.
I dont want to be rude, but do you believe in that reincarnation? Well think about if you would like to get reborne in your own tank!

I truely feel sorry for the fish you keep as your way of keeping fish is not even close to responsible fish keeping.

No hard feelings, but wanted to express my thoughts
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Old 03/01/2006, 02:18 PM
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I don't care so much about the numbers, but how do you get a regal and multibar to eat in a tank like that? People struggle with these fish in reefs where they can pick at rock for months and months and sometimes never eat.

There are 10-20 fish on that list that are picky eaters. Are they long lived, or just rent-a-fish until they starve to death?
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Old 03/01/2006, 02:27 PM
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threads like this make me not enjoy this hobby.
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Old 03/01/2006, 05:04 PM
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WOW I actually spend time and read every posts on this thread ..

Seafood: I do feel sorry for your fish. They are so pretty and shouldn't be punished like that. Oh well, I'm sure they don't want to be a fish in their next life, which is not very far away.
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Old 03/01/2006, 05:11 PM
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One thing we could all learn from Seafood Tank... he is taking a beating and has not gotten into a flame war and has not shot back at anybody. He is taking the differences in opinion like an adult. As far as that goes, I can appreciate it...
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Old 03/01/2006, 05:20 PM
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One thing we could all learn from Seafood Tank... he is taking a beating and has not gotten into a flame war and has not shot back at anybody. He is taking the differences in opinion like an adult. As far as that goes, I can appreciate it...
I agree with you. I'm surprised.
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Old 03/01/2006, 05:22 PM
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This guy is from a different world than you and I, and thoughts are clearly different on how to keep fish. This is the norm in HK and likes. I am sure if you go to the HK forums and can read that language, they are probably saying man these Americans spend 10 grand on their tanks and I don't see any fish??

Its a different culture and a different philosophy all together. Some posters in here are all like... ooo your hurting your fishes feelings....blaaaa blaaa this guy might be like mmm that parrot fish looks good for dinner tonight..I think ill net him and fry him..
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Old 03/01/2006, 05:25 PM
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Sometimes when English is your 2nd language, you don't fully comprehend the full effect of what you read. I speak 3 languages, English being my primary. When someone says F-you to me, I'll feel it, but if I get cussed out in the other languages I speak, I'll know what's going on, but it doesn't have the emotional affect. He may not even comprehend the slang term of "flaming'.
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Old 03/01/2006, 05:27 PM
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this guy might be like mmm that parrot fish looks good for dinner tonight..I think ill net him and fry him..
LMFAO...are you happy to sashimi? says the parrot fish.
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Old 03/01/2006, 05:28 PM
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this is pretty interesting =) i'm actually very curious about how well it's doing in the long run.
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Old 03/01/2006, 08:42 PM
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Its a different culture and a different philosophy all together. Some posters in here are all like... ooo your hurting your fishes feelings....blaaaa blaaa this guy might be like mmm that parrot fish looks good for dinner tonight..I think ill net him and fry him..
that's classic; couldn't have said it better.
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Old 03/01/2006, 09:24 PM
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Not saying seafood tank is right but when I started keeping marine fish 25 years ago at the tender age of 14 all the books quoted stocking densities at 1" per gallon. Seafood is not much off that.
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Old 03/02/2006, 05:36 AM
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Wow!!! I'm running the same skimmer (euro reef 12-1) on my 240 with 20 fish and it pulls out all kinds of gunk. I would imagine you have to clean your collection cup every 3 or 4 hours with that many fish. Nice fish but this is just a dissaster waiting to happen. A clown tang in a 26 gallon???? That's animal abuse.
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Old 03/04/2006, 12:31 PM
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some people should not own fish tanks...
I agree
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Old 03/04/2006, 02:28 PM
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quote:Originally posted by sabodish
some people should not own fish tanks...



The thing about that statement is who should we let decide that?

YOU!

or someone who disagrees with your methods of how you keep your fish


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Old 03/04/2006, 09:42 PM
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quote:Originally posted by sabodish
some people should not own fish tanks...



The thing about that statement is who should we let decide that?

YOU!

or someone who disagrees with your methods of how you keep your fish


Mar
Let's not get all philosophical about this, it was just a simple statement. Do you not agree that some people shouldn't own fish tanks?

I don't think some people should drive...as I'm sure some share my sentiments. Do you ask me if I should be the one deciding who drives? (well, I think I should be, but we all know that's not going to happen ) Maro...do you support his way of keeping a tank? If so, then so be it, but if not...why such a defense of it?

Do you seriously believe that this is an example of proper (as in fish will live long term) way of keeping animals? If not, why argue ...
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Old 03/04/2006, 09:55 PM
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No actually Kalare I am pretty much in stride with you on this.

It just bothers me that so many people just follow along to pile on when some one starts a negative direction in a post. I would not keep my tank with that many fish in it. Only because I don't think I could keep them healthy.

But I would like to know more about the people that do and how successful or un-successful they are at keeping them. And what are the cultural views that shape there keeping tanks like this. as some posters have pointed out that this is the norm in other countrys.

Rather then every other post being " dude, your stupid, how would you like to be kept like this"

Unfortunately I don't think seafoodtank is fluent enough to answer those questions.

you have made some good points in this thread as well as XeniaMania, who as added a bit of cultural understanding.

None of my posts however have been said with less than a lighthearted mindset.

Mar

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Old 03/04/2006, 09:57 PM
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kalare as for the driving you should be where I live I think the average age of the guy on the road here is 105

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Old 03/04/2006, 10:08 PM
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No actually Kalare I am pretty much in stride with you on this.

It just bothers me that so many people just follow along to pile on when some one starts a negative direction in a post. I would not keep my tank with that many fish in it. Only because I don't think I could keep them healthy.

But I would like to know more about the people that do and how successful or un-successful they are at keeping them. And what are the cultural views that shape there keeping tanks like this. as some posters have pointed out that this is the norm in other countrys.

Rather then every other post being " dude, your stupid, how would you like to be kept like this"

Unfortunately I don't think seafoodtank is fluent enough to answer those questions.



Excellent point, however I think (as Kalare previously mentioned) that while Seafood may not be fluent, he (going to assume is a "he" until told otherwise) did go to the touble of giving this thread the title of "Crazy (note it says "crazy") bio-loading with 86 fish," which to me says a lot right there. Seems he wants the criticism.
 


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