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11 fish and 4 tangs in a 65g?
..although the tank is very colorful, that is the most overcrowded tank i've ever seen on here ...glad there's a 225g coming, they'll all love you Timothy....that is not a good rule of thumb at all
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No the tang does not eat it, it is feather caulerpa, I have been selling what I cull out of this tank on the for sale forum.
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Here is some of it in my 125. The pods reproduce like crazy in it so I let iit get very thick on that end, and there are baby xenia and white dusters to. |
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sumps and refugiums do not add swimming room..
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Caulerpa ... looks GREAT but how fast does it spread? I also know this macro is notorious for heavy nutrient export but also for its problems. Have you had it go sexual? Your tank is ovbiously not lit 24/7, but then agian it isnt jam packied in a fuge. I would love to here more about this |
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Reef, this kind does not go sexual, I have had it for over 8 years in my tanks with no problem.
It grows very fast, on sand or rock, thus I keep it pulled every month or so. I like the nature look that it gives a tank and have it in all of my tanks. Makes for a very natural look. By the way, I don't have fuges or sumps on any of my tanks. One reason I feel that I dont need it is have the combination of this caulerpa and other filter feeders in my tanks keep them crystal clear. |
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Here is a full tank view , the picture above this is in the left hand corner of the tank.
I let it grow all over the tank, keeping it pulled if it starts to invade the corals which they do fast. |
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ALL caulerpas can go sexual.. Including this one (feather caulerpa). I've had it go sexual in a 10g fuge on a 29g tank. Made for a milky white tank for 36 hours.. Your regular pruning helps keep it from reaching critical mass, aka, when it goes sexual..
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Nagel, I have never had it go sexual in all the years I have had it. So if it does it hasnt for me.
Maybe because I keep it pulled out before it takes over everything that keeps it from doing that. Don't know but I love the stuff |
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It can go sexual and probably isnt the best canidate for a fuge macro BUT this is a display were dealing with, from waht ive read it goes sexual when lare amounts build up and it gets crowded. You would have to be pretty careless to let this happen in a display tank. If it does go sexual on you I guess you kind of deserve it lol.
I realy like the look of this. It gives the greyish/baige/white softys a little pizazz
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Thats exactly what I said, though I guess "critical mass" is a bit cryptic..
When it has nowhere left to grow, and you are almost busting at the seams with it (and many fuges do look like this), that's when it goes sexual.. The regular pruning helps to keep it from getting to this point, hence you never had to deal with it going sexual.. I would keep some in my main tank, but the tangs, they love it. I basically recycle caulerpa from my 75g refugium as tang food..
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My hippo and yellow wouldnt eat my caulerpa but they were probably spoiled becuase before that I bought a tang heaven macro pack and was feeding them that. I woudnt mind getting rid of the tang heaven macro in my fuge and replasing it with cheato and let them feed of the caulerpa in the display (wich I think I;m going to add soon). |
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I have this in both big tanks and have a yellow tang in both, I have never seen them eat it nor have I seen it mowed down, so just don't think they eat this kind.
But then again, I have so much of it maybe they do eat a bit of it and I don't notice Either way, I love the stuff and like the looks of it. Give it a try and see how it looks in yours. But keep it from getting away from you as I do. Pull and relocate is the key |
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I was going to put a small seagrass patch in the back corner of my tank but now I think I'm gunna use the feather caulerpa
Any other good softie tanks out there?
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Sumps/Fuges just make your tank more stable and lessen the biolopad by spreading it over a bigger volume. Tangs still need so much space to move ... I see people with 120gallon tanks that are so cramed with sps that there tangs still dont have enouugh room. I'm not saying its wrong to buy tangs for a 65 tank but there going to outgrow it fast ... and 4 tangs is a little bit overboard I was pretty nervous about a hippo and a yellow in a 55 and I made sure that I bought them at about 1 1/2"-2" each |
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Feather Caulerpa - Hippo, Desjardinii, Purple, Powder Blue, Hawaiian Sailfin, Vlamingi, Sohal and even the Chevron from time to time Grape Caulerpa - Hippo, Desjardinii, Purple, Powder Blue, Hawaiian Sailfin, Vlamingi, Sohal, Chevron, even my French Angel and Emperor Angels love this stuff Razor Caulerpa - Hippo, Desjardinii, Purple, Vlamingi, Sohal Cup Caulerpa - Purple, Vlamingi, Sohal This is what I have / and have watched them eat. The Vlamingi's are caulerpa-eating machines. The Hippo will eat lots of it, but never seems to fatten up, in comparison to the Sohal which is a fat pig. The Chevron only picks at it, I wouldn't say he loves it as much as the others do. Quote:
Volume for a number of fish is one thing, say a large school of chromis or anthias, but system volume is no substitute for a large tank with swimming room for large tangs. In other words, my Vlamingi's (I have 2) will one day outgrow even my 300. I have plans to donate them to some local public aquariums when they reach 16" (still plenty of room for them to swim in a 96Lx24Wx30T tank, but my conscience gets the better of me). And yes, I have already worked out the details with the aquariums (MOST will NOT accept fish like this, do NOT buy with the intention of giving them to a local public aquarium unless you have talked with the curator and worked out the specifics beforehand!)
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Lets see some more! I know there out there
FindingNemo- One thing came to mind last night ... I remeber reading something by Calfo saying even if your caulerpa doesnt go sexual everytime you pull it out of yoursand/rocks it releases toxins in the water. Any comments on that?
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HI Reef, I have never heard of that.
I have some growing all over the sand and rock and I pull it often and hav'nt had a problem at all with the tank after doing so. I have been doing it for many years with no losses of fish or stock so just don't know if that is true or not. But then again, now much caulerpa is he saying to pull out at one time to create that problem? I do about 2 sandwich bags at a time is all I have done. Do you have the article or thread where he talked about that? |
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I will try to find it ... I think it was on wetwebmedia and it was about why caulerpa wasnt a good refugium macro. It talked about it going sexual ect. and also that when pruning it released toxins.
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What kind of filtration are you running? Charcoal? I was wondering if you ever have a problem with your leathers attacking each other with chemicals. Thanks!
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Here's my 90g BB softie/lps tank this setup has been thru a few tanks and the liverock, large devils hand ,clownfish and some mushrooms are close to 10yrs old.
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nice, you dont see bare bottom softies very often ... or atleast I dont
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Thanks and your right there aren't many I know of either! My softie tank has been barebottom for 2 years now . Before that was a SSb, before that DSB before that crushed coral and before that yes BB berlin
For me running this setup has been the easiest since I went BB....Also I didn't cook the rock at all as that method wasn't even around at that point..
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