Show me your ... Green Nepthea - Page 2

Ti · #26 06/25/2006, 02:38 AM

wow those r really nice!

glennb · #27 06/25/2006, 10:38 AM

hi guys, beautiful corals, and great photos of them. Softie IDs can be tricky so I don't pretend to know exactly what you're dealing with here, but feel obliged to point out that none of them resemble Nephthea. Might want to consult one of the resident coral ID gurus with these.

gflat65 · #28 06/25/2006, 05:54 PM

I'd say most of the look like Nephthea... The last one is Capnella, but the others look like what I've always seen described as Nephthea. Doesn't mean they haven't all been wrong, but...

http://www.garf.org/1armci/dendro.html#Nephthea

reefnewbie54321 · #29 06/27/2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by glennb
hi guys, beautiful corals, and great photos of them. Softie IDs can be tricky so I don't pretend to know exactly what you're dealing with here, but feel obliged to point out that none of them resemble Nephthea. Might want to consult one of the resident coral ID gurus with these.

Got any examples?

I saw one that I wasnt sure if it was a Nepthea but it also wasnt a close up so I cant I.D. it and another one of a neon tree that hadnt opened up yet so I couldnt I.D. it for sure but other then that I would say they are all Nepthea.

graveyardworm · #30 06/28/2006, 01:00 PM

I have to agree with glennb, Nepthea is a notoriously difficult species to keep as they are genrally not photosynthetic and require small particulate foods. They are very closely related to dendronepthea although they may have a slightly better record in captivity, but not much. More than likely what people here have is a Sinularia species. The only way to properly 100% identify is with examination of the spicules under magnification, and the correct reference literature.

graveyardworm · #31 06/28/2006, 01:14 PM

Here's mine which I believed to be green nepthea, but after following a discussion with Eric Borneman where he identified some very similar soft coral as sinularia I'm not so sure and feel that its probably sinualria. I can PM a link to the discussion, but posting it would probably be against the UA.

reefnewbie54321 · #32 06/28/2006, 04:10 PM

PM'ing me the discussion would be appreciated

graveyardworm · #33 06/28/2006, 04:22 PM

Reefnewbie YGPM

cyclops23 · #34 06/28/2006, 05:58 PM

graveyardworm, any chance you can pm that discussion my way?

reefnewbie54321 · #35 06/28/2006, 08:43 PM

cyclops23, I sent you the link incase graveyardworm didnt. I now agree aswell most of these corals are most likely sinularia but cant be i.d.'ed unless under magnification.

So I guess the thread should no read, Show me your .... Green Nepthea/Sinularia

cyclops23 · #36 06/28/2006, 09:29 PM

sinularia works for me, i still love the color. that was an interesting discussion, i agree that it does look like the sinularia, but i dont have access to a microscope. thanks for the link guys!

graveyardworm · #37 06/28/2006, 09:35 PM

I would consider this coral to be one of the great successes in the hobby, and one of the hardiest corals. For me it grows very well in low light, high light, clean water, dirty water, seems to prefer low to moderate flow, and is easy to frag successfully. It seems that it grows so well that wild collection of this coral is probably no longer necessary. On top of all that its also attractive.

cwegescheide · #38 06/28/2006, 10:39 PM

I've got two sinularias. I've got the Palau Sinularia and the Bali Sinularia. The Bali grows like a weed but is not quite as bright neon green as the Palau. But honestly who really cares the taxinomy of these corals? I'm not trying to be arguementative here. I'm just saying if you like it and you can make it prosper in your captive environment then do you really care? I don't think ANYBODY really knows a lot about corals other then the most basic care for them.

graveyardworm · #39 06/28/2006, 10:52 PM

I agree, when they're happy I'm happy doesnt really matter what they're called.

cyclops23 · #40 06/29/2006, 02:03 PM

amen brother

glennb · #41 06/29/2006, 09:16 PM

Can't say I agree with those sentiments, but each to their own.

Newbiereefer? Wasn't entirely clear what you wanted examples of, I presume you meant photos of Nephthea species. I took some last night. They're lousy photos but should be enough detail in them for you to get a clearer idea of what Nephthea look like.

NB: first picture contains a Capnella and Litophyton species

glennb · #42 06/29/2006, 09:17 PM

More

glennb · #43 06/29/2006, 09:20 PM

Some other Nephtheiids not to be confused with Nephthea sp

BrokkenTWolf · #44 06/30/2006, 12:16 PM

... and it glows even brighter when the actinics are on.

cyclops23 · #45 06/30/2006, 04:04 PM

awesome corals glennb! that red nephtheiid is amazing. how hard are they to take care of? I dont plan on getting one, just wondering. I had a run-in with a dendro that knocked me down a couple pegs, now i'm just going for the easy to care for

BrokkenTWolf, that pic should be in a calendar, man!

gflat65 · #46 06/30/2006, 05:55 PM

glennb,

Are those Dendro's? If so, what are you doing to keep them alive?

Can someone send me the discussion on determining soft coral genus? I got mine from garf as a Nepthea, but research foundations can be wrong, too.

BrokkenTWolf · #47 07/01/2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by cyclops23
awesome corals glennb! that red nephtheiid is amazing. how hard are they to take care of? I dont plan on getting one, just wondering. I had a run-in with a dendro that knocked me down a couple pegs, now i'm just going for the easy to care for

BrokkenTWolf, that pic should be in a calendar, man!

You think it's THAT good.

Well, I'm elated that you think so. Personally I think I'm a crappy photographer. This must obviously be one of those lucky shots.

reefnewbie54321 · #48 07/01/2006, 09:34 PM

glennb, what are the last to corals you posted?

gflat65, not sure if anyone sent you the link so I did. YGPM

glennb · #49 07/06/2006, 10:02 AM

I'm not sure which genus the red and yellow neptheiids in the last two pics belong to. They might be easy enough to ID, just that I've never attempted it.

The red one was salvaged from a live rock bin, and the yellow one was an incidental attached to the rock of another coral I purchased.

I've seen brown, orange, and purple variations of the yellow one that were identical in all but colour, so it's possible there's wide colour variation in this species.

These two coral receive no special treatment. There hasn't been any noticable growth in the six or so months they've been with me. They're positioned them under a ledge near the front pane of glass, and receive reflected light from the glass and a solid linear water flow that cascades down the front pane and along the sandbed.

Both of these elicit a strong feeding response when diatoms are scraped from the tank's sides, which is about the only useful food they'd ever recieve other than detritus and whatever becomes liberated from the sandbed.

The system is fishless, skimmerless, and lucky to be fed once a week.

The red one's very tolerant of touching other coral and discosoma sp corallimorphs; it remains opened when rubbing up against all those I've positioned beside it.

That's about all the observations I can share in relation to these two coral.

On a different note, has anyone else noticed that with Nephthea species the longer the lights are on, the better they look? The ones I have take about 10 hours to expand to about 90% of their potential, and a full 13 hours to reach maximum. They're the slowest of any coral I've kept to rouse in the morning, they react quickly to the lights coming on, but take hours to look remotely 'awake'.

Nammy · #50 07/08/2006, 09:44 PM