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03/29/2005, 02:25 PM
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Grim Reefer,
Do you see more fluorescence with the Blueplus or more output? as compared to the actinics.. I find myself needing to shift a little to the neutral side and was thinking of adding two suns and two actinics. My main drive lights "for a lack of better words" is one BluePlus and two Aquablue 11Ks... I like a blue shift but I think Im too blue right now. But, I like the fluorescence... I would end up with, Two 11Ks Two Suns Two Act One BluePlus
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03/29/2005, 02:38 PM
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The actinic would fluoresce the corals but provide little visible light so swaping a blueplus with an actinic will decrease the amount of blue you see in the light.
If you are going to run 7 lamps I would run 2 Blueplus, 2 Suns or GE days, 2 Aquablue and 1 actinic. The sun or days willreally sap the blue look away from the light so I would run at least 2 bluepluses with them.
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03/29/2005, 02:49 PM
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ok do the blues do the fluorescing? and if i got 6,000 would that be as good as the 6500 or is the 6000 closer to red. oh and if i had 3 blues would that be too much, do i need a 11k? if i do then i like what you said grim.
but if the blues do the fluorescing what i think that i would like would be the 3 blues, and the sun, right? this way the 2 blues will be on start up then the other 2 will come on later. could a sun be replaced with a 11k?
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03/29/2005, 02:52 PM
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ok- i got the blue plus to add to my actinic t-5 already in my fixture- my reactions: very blue compared to the actinic and very bright- so bright it seemed to overpower the purple look of the actinic- also- it stole away the power to flouresce the green pigments in coral-
the oranges, reds, and yellows however EXPLODED w/ color undre the blue+ - greens will flouresce, but no where near as well as the true actinic-
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03/29/2005, 03:01 PM
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Grim,
Thanks, My Friend
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03/29/2005, 03:11 PM
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so if i had an acintic i would be ok to fluoresce the green, so i would just get a blue, acintic, 11k, sun? that sound better. i want to really bring the color out on the corals, and i do have some green so i dont want to loose that. anyways this sound better?
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03/29/2005, 03:13 PM
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i have been reading that 30 page thread on the T5, man that is long.
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03/29/2005, 04:10 PM
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i guess that everyone is on there way home from work
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03/29/2005, 06:23 PM
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With corals that fluoresce green actinic makes them light up better, thing in other colors like SPS seem to benefit from the Blueplus more. Blueplus will fluoresce the corals but because they provide so much visible light it also drowns out the fluorescing effect. In an dusk/dawn mode actinic will look better but with all lights on the Blueplus will be better. I personally did not even use a T5 actinic after about 6 months.
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03/29/2005, 07:21 PM
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ok i think that i grasp the concept a little better now, i know that the best way that im going to learn is by trial and error, but i will have a better idea now. and i have made another change in the fitxure that i will buy, im going with this one
http://www.aquatraders.com/index.asp...PROD&ProdID=19 what do you think, now im thinking of getting 3 fitures so i can have 6 bulbs. you think that, that will be better?
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03/29/2005, 07:50 PM
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i was thinking the same and put them on different times so the lights will shut down and turn on with out shocking the fish and coral.
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03/29/2005, 07:59 PM
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I wouldn't buy from aquatraders because of their sleazy business practices. They halfass pack things and when the lamps arrive broken they say because the lamps were "free" you have to pay to have new ones shipped.
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03/29/2005, 08:01 PM
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OH!!!!! that's no good.
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03/29/2005, 08:06 PM
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yeah that isnt good. but i think that i will take the chance with them though. im willing to risk it, and if hey they break, well then i just buy new ones, what are you going to do. thanks for the input. do you know where i could buy the fiture from someone else though? thanks
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03/29/2005, 08:49 PM
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ok, i just want to ask on here see if anyone knows, the dims are 24" X 4" X 1.5", now does that make it 1.5 wide or is it what i think that it is and thats how tall it is. im trying to figure this out. thanks
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03/29/2005, 09:00 PM
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well i have called about 4 times, and i finally got through, i found out the info on the width. and i asked about if the bulbs break, he said that if they break there is no coverage since they are free, ouch. well i think that im going to go with this, im just not sure if i should get 3 fitures or 2? anyone have any ideas? will this fry my shrooms, chilly, toadstoal, rics? if i go with 3 the wattage will be about the same 144, i have 130 now in pc
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03/29/2005, 10:16 PM
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NO NO NO- dont go w/ that! it is NOT a suitable t-5 lighting system- (as in the performance SUCKS compared to TEK lights b/c 1. the reflector is horrible 2. the bulbs are horrible (b/c they are free) 3. this is jebo brand - 4. your ordering from a risky place
i would only recommend this light IF you were gonna use it for actinic supplement or any kind of supplemental lighting-
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03/29/2005, 10:26 PM
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wow you are really against this huh, they that bad. well if you say so then i guess i will stick with the new wave/teck lighting.
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03/29/2005, 10:50 PM
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look- order it if you wish- but as a fellow reefer- i would only want to steer you into the right choice-
TEK/wave are much better- even though they are 5 times as expensive, they are worth it- especially if you plan on getting any high light corals/clams- (which you will- i can guarantee you'll have the urge! ) and you'll hate yourself for not getting the "best" t-5 light out there- ive got a 150W MH w/ a finnex t-5 HO fixture- 2 39W fixture- its great for actinic lighting- but the reflector is very standard- and i would not rely on this light to provide the main light to my tank.
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03/29/2005, 11:05 PM
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no no i appreciate your imput, im just saying that you had some very strong feelings against this light. the wave i was intersted in buying is not much different in price. http://www.altgarden.com/site/lights...tek-light.html see it at the bottom. this was what i was thinking about. if you think that is better than i will go with that.
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03/29/2005, 11:09 PM
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If you go T-5 you will need the indv. reflectors for each bulb just like grim said. That unit has 1 reflector for 2 bulbs. Dont do it, spend the money now on a good setup, you will not be sorry.
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03/29/2005, 11:11 PM
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oh ok, so go with the other one then? allright i will order this i think tommrow im going to call and ask for the different bulbs they said they could get me.
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03/29/2005, 11:15 PM
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haha now another question this one will be easy, how well do these work http://www.altgarden.com/site/lightm...s/sunlift.html
thanks
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03/29/2005, 11:57 PM
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For all the help you have gotten here you are going to be the test case
 It really does look like a slick system but I doubt if anyone has used them yet.
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ok i will try , and i will report back here on them.
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