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03/23/2005, 07:17 PM
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Here's a "top down" shot of my 'Blue Chalice' 
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03/23/2005, 08:51 PM
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I've have a few frags but I just got this colony. I am not sure what it is because I haven't been able to determine many differences in Echinopyllia, Echinopora or Oxypora. I have looked on the whelk aims site and can't seem to see any difference.
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03/23/2005, 09:19 PM
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How thick is the skeleton? Echinopora and Echinophyllia are similar looking at times, but I find the Echinopora to have a much thinner and more brittle skeleton. Echinophyllia have raised 'ridges' along the surface (damned if I can think of the name of that feature right now.. Gary, help me out here!) Septae?
Anyways, Oxy's and Echinophyllia look similar to me, in that they both appear more like an LPS.. a layer of tissue that 'floats' over top of a skeleton. It can contract and expand a little. Echinopora's look more like encrusting montipora's, than an LPS, IMO (when compared to Echinophyllia and Oxypora). Does that make ANY sense? ... and if I had to guess... I'd say that frag is an Echinopora. - Mac |
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#354
03/23/2005, 09:44 PM
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I'm at a loss for the word, Mac, but I agree- Echinophyllia is definitely more 'fleshy' than most other 'chalice' type corals.
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03/23/2005, 10:50 PM
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The skeleton on that piece is very thin and has some skeletal ridges. I have a pink/green one that alo has a think skeleton but the growth is different. That one grows more encrusting while this one is more like a Monti cap. I thought is was an Echinopora but I can't say that I have ever seen an Oxypora except in pictures. Some of the others that I have have thin skeletons and some have thick. I don't guess it really matters I just would like to be able to tell the difference for the heck of it.
Here are a few pics of the frags that I have (these bad pictures were taken right after they were aclimated and were freshly cut):    And this is a very old picture of the first one that I got (the one that got me addicted to this type of coral) it has now completely covered the rock it was mounted on and is starting to plate outward. The person I got it from didn't know what it was but I have always called it an Echinophyllia.  Thanks, Scott |
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#357
03/24/2005, 07:13 AM
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Gary, you, at a loss for words? Mr Latin? C'mon.. I don't buy it. Were you drinking last night?
  Scott, I'd say all of those frags pictured are Echinophyllia (and some very nice ones, too). - Mac |
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03/24/2005, 03:41 PM
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Thanks for the replies. The first one had only been in my tank 5 minutes when I took that picture. If it changes any or if I can get a good macro shot I will post it.
Does anyone have pictures of all three of them that might show distinguishing characteristics? Looking at the whelk site they all look the same with flesh on them. Scott |
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#360
03/24/2005, 03:53 PM
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Well, here is a pic of my purple Echinopora. I want to call it E. lamellosa, but really don't know about the species. You can see the resemblance to a plating monti, w/ it's plating growth form, and textured surface. It's the texture in the skin that I can spot, differentiating it from Echinophyllia.
 Here's a close-up.  Here's a fairly close-up view of an Echinophyllia that I got from RandyO many years ago.  You can see the fleshy nature of the coral, and how it's surface is more inflated, almost like a Ricordea. The mouths are less exsert, less distinct, and especially at the growth margin, you can tell it's an LPS. That's a good 2-3 cm's of tissue extending beyond the skeleton. In person, when flow hits it and it looks like a bowl of jell-o, it's obviously a lot easier to spot. I don't have any pics of my Oxypora (recent acquisition), but it looks similar, w/o the bumps on the flesh (ala Ricordea). Here's another good shot of a green Echinophyllia aspera I also got from RandyO.  - Mac |
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#361
03/24/2005, 04:09 PM
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Mac, That Echinophora is freaking sweet. Is it really that Blue???
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03/24/2005, 04:17 PM
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Thanks, Yup!
Got that one from Mustang a couple years ago. Ya know, w/ the weather warming up out this way, you could have a piece.... I thought I remember seeing a few nice shots of your corals. - Mac |
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03/24/2005, 04:29 PM
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#366
03/24/2005, 05:40 PM
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Looking good Amy!
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03/24/2005, 06:55 PM
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03/24/2005, 10:09 PM
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Mac, How large is that Echinopora? Mine looks pretty similar and much smaller that that one and has the cap-like growth. It defiately looks different than the others that I have. |
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03/24/2005, 11:12 PM
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03/25/2005, 04:13 AM
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