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smokez01: I have a UVL sup.act, and act+ come on @10:00a-10p,
The rest come on @noon-7pm, so I have a 2 hr dawn period, and a 3 hr dusk. Im gonna wind it down though and shorten the evening period to 2 hr dawn and 1 hr dusk, so I'll eventually be running 10 hrs a day instead of 12. -Justin
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I have MH's and if i dont feed enough they all turn pale and lose color.
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Flint&Eric - your missing the point The corals(sps) are not dependent on nitrogen in the water column. They get 60% + of their carbon and nitrogen from actual prey capture feeding on plankton (bacto/zoo).
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I'm kind of new to SPS but I'm going to post some pictures of my acros under T5. I can only say that under my t5 acros that are green/blue retain very dark colors. Acros that i get that are tan/pink/brown evolve to have very bright colors.
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Nice closeups
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Pitcom, nice pics. Where is Southeast PA do you live?
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Nitrogen limitation is nitrogen limitation, be it a lack of prey capture or absorptive sources (or both)--although the former is the usual culprit, iMho. They do absorb some from the water column, but it is very small compared to prey capture. Higher feeding frequency would overcome that limitation in both respects (at least to a degree).
One factor in my tank in particular I forgot to mention is age--it has been established for over 12 years. Bacterioplankton densities, as well as small zooplankton is higher than in many of these younger tanks--which could potentially support a the idea of a limitation of sorts via a food source.
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I must agree, that there is a correllation between pale colors and T5. That being said, correllation does not necessarally mean causation. I think its probably a synergistic problem.
Myself, I also experienced pale colors with T5s. Switching to MH was not the miracle cure though either. Today most of my corals look great...but I can not say 100% what was the cause for deeper colors. I suspect it was more related to feeding though.. Those of you with pale colors, I highly suggest simply doubling or trippling your feedings for a couple months and see the result.
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stony_corals - I don't run any carbon source, but I have not had to yet - knock on wood. I feed 3 cubes a day (mysis,rotifer,cyclops) and my natural filtration does ok with this. I changed 5 gals every 2 weeks. I like the spectrum thought. In my observations, I've notice that the whiter the bulb, the more bleached out the corals appear. The bluer, the better. Has anyone else noticed this?
A coral is a coral whether it comes from the ocean or someone's tank. Their individual enviornment they grow in is different. Everyone's tank is different so to narrow it down to captive aquaria coral and natural coral is limiting at best. Joe Schmo feeds his tank everyday and Slick Rick doesn't. Each coral is in a different enviornment so can we really classify them in only two categories; both captive aquaria and wild even though 1 guy feeds about 40% of what the ocean provides and the other one doesn't at all? Of course not. Flint&Eric - I'm not disputing a coral can absorb N through the water column because we know this to be true. However, they do not rely on this as their primary source for N. Can a coral adapt and become more reliable on it than others - sure, but regardless their basic function as a feeding (prey capture)photosynthetic coral is met way before they absorb N. Besides, majority of plankton and/or food that makes it into our tanks comes from a frozen package...or a fishes' butt for many reefers
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Pitcom, I know where that is. I grew up there.
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fiji check out panamax.com then pm me.
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