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Old 11/25/2007, 08:43 PM
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What the h%^& is wrong? Everything is dying...

Lost my female pink skunk, and now my corals and anemones are looking bad. The colt coral and anemones look like they are melting away. Even the button polyps are closed and shrunken.

My water params are fine. Nitrates are actually lower than they usually are. Alk is 12, phosphates 0, ammonia 0, calcium 400, and nitrites 0. Temperature is 80.

A couple of weeks ago I had some trouble with my heater, and the tank was getting up to 86. I quickly replaced the heater. Everything still looked fine at that time, though.

Any guess what's causing this? I have a 55 tall, mH bulb and 2 actinics. I'm about to replace the mH bulb just in case.
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:17 PM
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Maybe some parameter off and the test isn't working, or there is something going on that you are not testing for. Maybe send a sample to AWT and see if they can find something.
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:22 PM
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have you added anythinh lately
Maby a big water change will help
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:28 PM
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I haven't added anything. I don't think it's any sort of "bug" or it would only be affecting the fish, right? Plus I don't see any spots or such. Just looks like everything is dying.

That's a beautiful nem in your pic by the way, tinmanny. Where did you get it?
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:30 PM
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I also agree with Manny do a few water change and it might stablize your tank parameters or if there is toxins in the water from the dead fish it will help the other animals with a large water change!
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:31 PM
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stray voltage?
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:31 PM
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How large do you think would be a good idea?

Are you sure it won't stress the corals and anemones that are already not well?
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:35 PM
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If you match the pH, temp, and salinity a 100% waterchange is not harmful.

Personally I don't like to do mor the 50% at a time cuz I'm a chicken.

Sounds like a few large waterchanges would do your tank quite good. Taking animals from water that is stressing them out and putting them in good water doesn't really cause problems, as long as temp, pH, and salinity are matched.

I woud also suggest you run carbon. It is possible some contamanent got into your system, so it needs to be flushed out.

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Old 11/25/2007, 09:36 PM
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Water changes,untill you find the prob
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:37 PM
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I would also do a copper test. If you don't have one handy (I know I sure don't) a would start running some PolyFilter (Poly Bio Marine) in a canister or power filter just in case there is a metal toxicity problem.
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:48 PM
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As noted water changes and carbon and /or polypad. You didn't mention salinity.Remove dead or dying inverts. Check for stray voltage.
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Old 11/25/2007, 09:51 PM
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I've got some carbon, but where should I put it? I have a sump with protein skimmer. No power or canister filter.
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Old 11/25/2007, 10:03 PM
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Filter sock?
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Old 11/25/2007, 10:04 PM
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Put it in a fine mesh bag or something that will conatian it and let water pass through it and place it in the sump,in an area of high flow.
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Old 11/25/2007, 10:05 PM
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I do have a mesh bag with carbon in it. Just wondering where I should put it in the sump.
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Old 11/26/2007, 03:01 AM
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I know this sounds weird as you said you just replaced your heater. But what brand is it? Check it for stray voltage, as mentioned already. But also, make sure water is NOT getting inside there. If it is, you'll experience heavy metal poisoning, which sounds alot like what you're going through. Like I said, its a long shot, but pull the heater out and examine it thoroughly. PolyFilter, as already mentioned, will help if there are any metals in the system.
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Old 11/26/2007, 04:05 AM
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It really sounds like poisoning to me. I would start changing 20% every other day,also take a sample of your water to LFS they will have a copper test. Is there any chance that someone(a child perhaps)threw some pennys into your tank? Any plumbing added in the last month or so,a copper fitting of some sort? Sure hope you find the cause but Im sure some big water changes will at least keep what you have left alive,good luck.
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Old 11/26/2007, 10:04 PM
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The fish are all fine. It's just the invertebrates that are dying. Does that make it likely that it's copper?

There's no chance that any kid threw metal in my tank. How do I check the heater for water?

I had a Hydro Theo that I kept in the sump, but I replaced it with a new heater the other day that is not submersed. Don't remember the brand name.
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Old 11/26/2007, 10:06 PM
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Man, it looks like I lost all of my nems. I'm so ****ed!
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Old 11/26/2007, 10:21 PM
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so sorry about the nems: get them out fast: they'll add to the problem.
. Are you absolutely sure of your temperature: thermometer, not heater dial?
Run polypad/polyfilter: if there is any copper it will stain it blue as it sucks it out of the water.
Running carbon would be good.
20% waterchange good
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Old 11/26/2007, 11:16 PM
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Do the copper test 1st.
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Old 11/26/2007, 11:23 PM
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anemones are very slow to react. It's very possible the elevated temperatures were lethal to your anemone(s). What kind of anemone was it?
I would do a large water change ASAP.
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Old 11/27/2007, 12:17 AM
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Check your salinity!! I have had problems with swing arm hydrometers, particularly the Deep Six ones, and so have several others on this forum, and a few local hobbyists I know. When in doubt, I would also do a water change and run carbon.
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