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The Oceans pH Level Is Falling
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OMG! All this unchallenged evidence from the scientific journal USA Today. From 8.2 to 8.1 in only 206 years! What ever will we do? If someone took the time to write it down it must all be true. No use looking at any other evidence or causations.
THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! Dear lord, please safegaurd our passage to the other side for we are all doomed. Amen MIke |
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Good now I don't need to use so much buffer to keep my tank just like the oceans.
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"OMG! All this unchallenged evidence from the scientific journal USA Today. From 8.2 to 8.1 in only 206 years! What ever will we do? If someone took the time to write it down it must all be true. No use looking at any other evidence or causations.
THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! Dear lord, please safegaurd our passage to the other side for we are all doomed. Amen MIke" Wooohhahahahahahahhahaha |
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This is taking into account that the pH of our oceans was also lower at certain points in time. Just one potential problem in an a literal ocean of potential problems--95% of which have little real evidence behind them (or none, for that matter).
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I know I wasn't really scoffing at the concept--it could certainly be the case. I think, however, we should look at these things more objectively, in that we should look for other potential causes, immediate problems, and other theories. At the very least, we should await more information on things such as this before we assign it as a real problem, etc. It is just too early in this particular instance to give it too much credit.
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Global warming or Global climate change as its now called is not a moral debate. It is an engineering one. There is absolutely nothing anyone of us can do about it. Only new technology will save us, if the theory that global warming is anthropologic. I am not going to destroy the planet by grilling a ball park frank on my back yard BBQ. The world population is now 6 billion people. In 50 years it will be 9 billion. Unless we plan to see to it that most of the world stays impoverished, these 9 billion are going to have high energy needs. All the fossil fuels are eventually going to get burnt. Prevention is not going to help. Choosing more green stuff isn't going to help. So lets get of our moral high horse, fire up the SUV, and enjoy life without all the unnecessary guilt trips. Mike |
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PS. I thought you might be interested in seeing a weather chart of the closest city to that Antartica place that is supposed to be melting.
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The fact remains that reefs are retreating or completely dying off all over the world. Whether this has anything to do with global warming (and by extrapolation the lowing of ph) we do not know.
Perhaps it has nothing to do with man at all. I for one, would like to know the cause. If this pH drop is in fact true, I hope they follow up with some real proof.
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Mike - What is your careless attitude doing to remedy the situation besides mocking individuals who try to bring topics of discussion to those who are supposed to care the most about the state of our oceans and our planet in general?
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And I hope that no one has a careless attitude towards the retreating of coral reefs.
Furthermore, whether global warming is real or not ( I have yet to be convinced) has nothing to do with whether you should act callously toward the environment. No one should be saying: "there's nothing I can do to stop it, so I'll just resolve to make it worse."
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And there it is. Because you care, you're morally superior. If you buy a hybrid car because its green, your the savior of the planet. If I buy one to save money on gas, I'm just a republican. All the world problems will all go away if we just "care" ooooooooh "feelings, nothing more that feeeeeeeeeeeeelings, trying to forget those........feelings"
Let me tell you what my careless attitude is doing to remedy the situation. Exactly as much as your caring attitudes. And I am waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too busy to worry about things beyond my control. Mike |
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Today I feel like responding to a post like this.
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But no one is too busy to help the environment, or our country's security in some small way. It's very simple and easy to do. It makes a lot of economic sense most of the time.
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If people doubt global warming then they are wrong - it definitely is occuring, in fact without it the temperature of the Earth would be 34 centigrade cooler. What scientists debate is whether the pollution that humans generate is contributing to increasing the greenhouse layer of gases, or whether its impact is minimal and the fluctuations in the Earth's temperature are caused naturally (there is solid evidence that the temperature of the Earth changes in a cycle - just as there is evidence that the Earth has periods of ice age and warmer interludes that cycle constantly).
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I think it's the 7.9 you should be looking at. In any case, it's pretty mind boggling when you think of the volume of Sea Water on the planet and think of how much of anything you would need to add to the water to lower the pH by .1
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I'm sure in 1800 they had great pH measuring capabilities I bet.
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If you take in to account that the Earth has survived this long and every thing has evolved to what it has become now. Species have used the old termanolgy "survival of the fittest". Meaning species capable of handeling what comes it way survives and then flurishes and mate and many years down the road we get a new species! That is how the world has evolved for many many many many years. Yes we need to take care of our planet but do not scare everyone half to death.
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The fact is that this stuff IS pretty scary. I personally don't want to live through a mass extinction (which we already are, unfortunately) and make humanity wait a couple million years for evolution to take its course.
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I'm waiting for the day this planet exterminates us. Couldn't say I'd blame it... you don't see any other animals exploiting it as well as we do. And before I get jumped on... NO I'm not out hugging trees. I should be but I am not. Just a little Cherokee heritage showing through with my belief that some things are more important than the fate of humanity... survival of the fittest... we shall see, we shall see.
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It's scary when I wonder what is going to survive these upcoming generations after many plants and animals get *snuffed out*
It's going to be all the scrappy animals (I'm thinking roaches, weeds, and such?) that were able to live and thrive in less than optimal conditions. Gone will be the days of the giants like elephants and whales. |
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DOH!
Sorry, I didn't mean to put that smiley in there... |
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