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10/04/2007, 01:01 PM
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That's like putting cocaine made in Colombia into a container of flour then shipping it here--it still is a controlled substance by US law and is illegal to import (plus somatropin here is pretty much only made legally by Genentech).
I've reiterated this point over and over again, most of the people running the BC method do not use somatropin! They use cheaper sources of AA's. ~$420 for two 5mg vials of somatropin isn't cost effective in my book. Maybe if you're cheating in a professional sport, but not for providing your corals with AA's. |
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10/30/2007, 09:43 PM
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H=human not coral. There is a very very very minimal, if any chance that if HGH was obtainable that it wouldn't be utilized by the coral. Growth hormones are specific to the species that produce them. Bovine GH is specific for cows. Different vertebrates will produce different somatotropins specific to their own molecular receptors. To my knowledge, I don't believe that any invertebrates produce growth hormones. From a molecular biology standpoint, HGH for coral growth makes as much sense as time machines and the laws of physics. So.........where are the tanks? 
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10/31/2007, 01:36 AM
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servo have you not read the last parts of the thread on that the Hormone is broken down in to different AA's so it has nothing to do with the coral using the Hormone as a growth hormone at all. And just because it is illegal does not mean it isn't obtainable...isn't pot, cocaine, and heroin illegal, yet readily avalible in many communities...
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#106
10/31/2007, 05:12 PM
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This is a biologic disconnect. Poor, poor science. I would be careful about what you put in your reef based upon antecdote. |
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#107
10/31/2007, 08:53 PM
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well if it creates some of the reefs that we have seen in prior posts I sure am going to try the method that they have been using. and I don't see why you think it is so hard to find somatotropin. I live in a city of about 50,000 people and I have been able to obtain it. I have never tried but I would hope that I couldn't get uranium as easily as the GH. But I do agree about no one knowing about the digestive system and even how the AA's help the coral with its growth. But what I do know is that corals react to the GH in a positive way so there for it is good in my book.
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#108
10/31/2007, 10:33 PM
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Any bodybuilder worth his "juice" can obtain HGH. IMO, insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) would break down similar to HGH. Unless something has changed, it is not scheduled and legal to obtain for research purposes and much less expensive.
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11/19/2007, 06:07 PM
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I just read most of this thread (quickly because I am at work) and have a few questions. I'm running the Ultralith system which is similar to Zeo but not quite. Does anyone have any experience with Pappone and Ultralith? Is it better to let the food dissolve or should it be spot fed. Also, since my Nitrates are less than 1 and my Phosphate is .006 (LaMotte Colorimeter) is it worth doing this and changing what already works for me?
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#110
11/19/2007, 08:10 PM
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so anyone ever try adding pappone without using the AA and just leaving the cup on the skimmer?
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