Long term success with a harem of bartlett anthias? - Page 6

King-Kong · #**126** 07/04/2007, 09:08 AM

Here is a new pic of my trio I took last night:
http://www.d3f.org/misc/fish/90g/a09...tank-angle.jpg

SDguy · #**127** 07/04/2007, 10:03 AM

Nice! How much pink does the larger female have on her forehead?

King-Kong · #**128** 07/04/2007, 02:14 PM

She's got a gap. There's a dash of pink on the tip of her head, and then starting at the dorsal, but nothing inbetween like the male.

zemuron114 · #**129** 07/04/2007, 05:49 PM

im still on the theory that there is no difference between male and female coloration. the small ones are just juvies and only the ones with long streamers are the true males... these are very weird fish!

SDguy · #**130** 07/04/2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by zemuron114
im still on the theory that there is no difference between male and female coloration. the small ones are just juvies and only the ones with long streamers are the true males... these are very weird fish!

Yeah, regardless though...if my male is kicking the *** of the "female" with all that pink and the yellow flank stripe, then who cares..the point is they don't like each other. So I guess you can only keep a male and juveniles, regardless of sex? It sucks either way

SDguy · #**131** 07/04/2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by King-Kong
She's got a gap. There's a dash of pink on the tip of her head, and then starting at the dorsal, but nothing inbetween like the male.

Interesting...my little female has only a pink first dorsal spine, that's it. No pink on the forehead at all.

pito · #**132** 07/07/2007, 03:08 PM

So is it safe to say these are'nt the best anthias for newbees?

zemuron114 · #**133** 07/07/2007, 03:56 PM

for hardiness sake they are probably the best for newbies, but for a harem sake it seems to not be the best. You can't beat them for colors and overall hardiness though. Get 3 and see what happens.

pito · #**134** 07/07/2007, 04:20 PM

Well I'm not set up yet. Still building and planning. I was planning on 7 for my 125, but now I'm not so sure. I have ony kept True Percs, chromis, and a bassalet. What other anthias would you guys recomend me looking into?

King-Kong · #**135** 07/07/2007, 04:36 PM

SDGuy: YGPM.

Pito: im considering swapping my bartletts out with another species of Anthias, so im also interested in some suggestions.. trying to find another hardy species that isnt aggressive towards fish in the tank (My large bartlett is pretty mean).

pito · #**136** 07/07/2007, 04:40 PM

I did'nt know they get aggressive with another species too. What other species is yours going after? Is anyone else haveing this prob?

SDguy · #**137** 07/07/2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by King-Kong
SDGuy: YGPM.

Already replied

Pito..most of the other hardy anthias are at least somewhat aggressive...lyretails, bicolor, bartlett, olive, redbar, especially to timid tankmates, like firefish, cardinals, etc.

pito · #**138** 07/07/2007, 04:47 PM

I think the most timid thing I plan to keep is a CB butterfly

SDguy · #**139** 07/07/2007, 04:52 PM

You'll be fine then.

pito · #**140** 07/07/2007, 04:55 PM

With what Bartletts or an other anthias

SDguy · #**141** 07/07/2007, 05:01 PM

With respect to aggression against other species of fish, I think you will be fine with just about any of the hardy anthias if a CBB is the most timid thing you plan to keep with them.

pito · #**142** 07/07/2007, 05:06 PM

Yeah but I want a harem of like 7 and it seems that the batletts are killing each other. At least thats what I getting here.

CarlC · #**143** 07/08/2007, 07:13 AM

If your looking for a species that is more tolerant of each other take a look at dispars. If you have the time to work with them in QT to get them feeding reguarly they seem to adapt well.

Carl

King-Kong · #**144** 07/08/2007, 09:16 AM

Carl; how do they do with OTHER fish, though. My supermale bartlett love to chase some of my smaller wrasses.

bradleyj · #**145** 07/08/2007, 09:21 AM

My Dispars get along great with every fish I have. No where near the aggression that the bartletts have.

CarlC · #**146** 07/08/2007, 09:28 AM

I am only keeping them with another anthias and a Wetmorella species of wrasse. Loris are concidered to be pretty shy and vulnerable. The dispar males took my two female lori's right into the school.

I'll soon be adding a trio of Pseudanthias flavicauda once out of QT.

Carl

pito · #**147** 07/11/2007, 02:37 PM

Thanks Carl. I'll take a look at them.

SDguy · #**148** 07/11/2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by CarlC
I am only keeping them with another anthias and a Wetmorella species of wrasse. Loris are concidered to be pretty shy and vulnerable. The dispar males took my two female lori's right into the school.

I'll soon be adding a trio of Pseudanthias flavicauda once out of QT.

Carl

Were those the ones from phishy?

Update for my guys. I have two males and one female. The two males really HATE each other. I've never seen such aggression. Displaying, circling each other, all fins flared. Chasing so fast I think it's freaking out my other fish a bit. I'm trying to get at least one trapped and removed. Well, that was a short lived experiment

CarlC · #**149** 07/11/2007, 04:57 PM

Got them from the Den. It was the first pair offered. Amazing colors! They ate 10 minutes after being out of the bag.

Since adding them the dispar males have gone from mild mannered to severe bullies. The dispar and lori females are being constantly harrased.

Time to remove the dispar!!

Carl

SDguy · #**150** 07/11/2007, 08:42 PM

Crazy social dynamics I tell you!

I look forward to pics of the new guys in the photo library thread...