Help me setup a 40breeder please :(

[Nick_P]

Hey guys,

I had started off with a 10g with 10g sump. Everything was going fine untill I tried to undo the plumbing, and I cracked my tank.

After seeing a 40 breeder in person I knew that was going to be my new tank.

So far I have these items ordered.
Maxi jet sureflow mods. I have 2 maxi 1200s im going to mod for flow.

Tek T5 4x39w

Rk2 contoller

JBJ auto topoff

2 100w stealth heaters

Diamond hole saws

bulk heads

My plan is to run 3 40g tanks. 1 display, 1 sump, 1 refug. Basicly dispaly on top only one seen, with drain 75% into sump, 25% to refug. The refug will be above the sump with its own overflow and feed into the return chamber of the sump.

Mag 3 will return sump to display. Add the MJ mods on RK2 for wavey flow. This should give me roughly 3x flow threw sump less then that in refug. Ill probably add a small maxi jet for refug water movement.

Heres the part thats nagging me. Id like to run 2 150 phosbane reactors. I want to run chemipure in one, and purigen in the other. My question is will this remove too much of the waters nutrients and not be enought to feed my micro algea in the refug?

I will add later a skimmer as well. I was thinnking either the Octo 150 extreme, or the ASM G1. Either one better then the other?

Am I over thinking this? I dont want to remove too much so my algea cant do its job, but I also want pristine clear water.

Any ideas would be great.

[McTeague]

A 40 will not fit in the stand under a 40 unless you are planning to design your own stand?

[Nick_P]

Originally posted by McTeague
A 40 will not fit in the stand under a 40 unless you are planning to design your own stand?

Correct. Ill be building my own stand. Its easy and I can do it the way I want it.

[Zestay]

i had some MJ mods in my 40 breeder.. WAY OVERKILL ON FLOW. the fish were stuck to the walls the flow was so hard.

two 1600 GPH pumps will create whirlpools in your tank. no flux capacitor required.

also running any modded MJ pumps on a wave maker is a possible hazard / clicking nightmare

[Misled]

I would have the fuge feed the display. This way pods and such arrive in the display alive.

[Nick_P]

Originally posted by Zestay
i had some MJ mods in my 40 breeder.. WAY OVERKILL ON FLOW. the fish were stuck to the walls the flow was so hard.

two 1600 GPH pumps will create whirlpools in your tank. no flux capacitor required.

also running any modded MJ pumps on a wave maker is a possible hazard / clicking nightmare

Bleh, I was worried about that.

What would be a better option if the Mj are too much. I really liked the fact they had a wide flow compaired to jet stream.

[Nick_P]

Originally posted by Misled
I would have the fuge feed the display. This way pods and such arrive in the display alive.

I just want to clear my intentions. Refuge will have an overflow with drain. It drains directly into the return chamber of the sump. It will not be skimed just shot into the display.

Will the pods die from the overflow to drain? Will the pump kill them?

If so how do I get the water from refug back to display with out killing the pods?

[aquawolf]

Your fuge idea should be fine. You may lose some pods in the return pump, but they are so small that many of them will make the trip without any problems. Might be a little dizzy when they get there, but still alive.

You may want to put your Maxi_Jet Mods on either 400s or 900s instead so you get the wide flow without the excessive power. The Sure Flow mod kits will fit on any of the Maxi-Jets, you just use the smaller propeller.

[Zestay]

or use some nano korrilas or korrilla 1s

[Nick_P]

Originally posted by aquawolf
Your fuge idea should be fine. You may lose some pods in the return pump, but they are so small that many of them will make the trip without any problems. Might be a little dizzy when they get there, but still alive.

You may want to put your Maxi_Jet Mods on either 400s or 900s instead so you get the wide flow without the excessive power. The Sure Flow mod kits will fit on any of the Maxi-Jets, you just use the smaller propeller.

Thanks, ill pick up some 400s.

[Nick_P]

Originally posted by Zestay
or use some nano korrilas or korrilla 1s

I had K3s in my cart, but ditched them due to the size. They look hokin huge in the pics ive seen. Ill have to go to the LFS and see one in person before i get one.

[aquawolf]

I think the K3's would be too much flow as well. I have 2 of them in my 75 and they are putting out some very good flow. You are right, they are big. Here is a shot of one of mine in the 75 gallon tank and it is even angled a little toward the back of the overflow:

[Rustylugnuts]

A pair of 2's might do the trick. With the 18" front to back there should be plenty of room.

[eeorrandy]

What kind of corals are you planning, how much live rock ? I have a 40 breeder and love it, but I think the required flow will depend more on what you want to keep in there, and how much rock there is to impede the flow.

I started with a mag5 on my return, but switched to a mag7. and have two koralias and a seio, I also use a mj12 to run a pvc "closed loop" which is hidden under the sand an LR to provide flow to some difficult spots.

It all depends on what your looking to accomplish.

Good luck

Randy

[Nick_P]

Originally posted by eeorrandy
What kind of corals are you planning, how much live rock ? I have a 40 breeder and love it, but I think the required flow will depend more on what you want to keep in there, and how much rock there is to impede the flow.

I started with a mag5 on my return, but switched to a mag7. and have two koralias and a seio, I also use a mj12 to run a pvc "closed loop" which is hidden under the sand an LR to provide flow to some difficult spots.

It all depends on what your looking to accomplish.

Good luck

Randy

Softie tank only. Im still very new and dont want to try sps yet.

Tank will have around 50-60 pounds LR in the dispaly and another 40 in the fuge.

[roushracer]

Originally posted by Rustylugnuts
A pair of 2's might do the trick. With the 18" front to back there should be plenty of room.

Yup, 2's are great in a 40g breeder. I'm running 2 right now in the top corners, along with 1 moded maxi that pushes flow behind my wall of live rock. I also have a mag 5 for my sump/refug return.

I'd say the overall flow is perfect for my mixed reef. If I was going all softie though it'd be way too much in alot of areas.