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Old 09/17/2007, 03:16 AM
Vili_Shark Vili_Shark is offline
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Not in HK you dont, they know exactly what they have in hand when they get a hybrid from Kenya.

Actually the procedure is, when a supplier is getting a hybrid he contacts the HK importers with a picture and they bid on the fish.

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Old 09/17/2007, 10:10 AM
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Vili,

Its been a couple of years since I was in HK so I am not sure what they are paying for these fish these days. Can you give some insight on what rare angels like Bandits, Conspics, Africanus (juv). etc, are going for. I am just curious because I am continiously being over bid on these fish
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Old 09/17/2007, 10:31 AM
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Check it out..he has leafy seadragons too!





and a Clarion

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Old 09/17/2007, 11:02 AM
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Is this in HK? are ya sure?!?

Triggerfish76
HK market is almost always cheaper than US market , I guess besides Hawaii and Craibean fish any other fish will be cheaper in HK.

It got alot to do with the market situation, for example, macolosus x semicirculatus or maculosus x chruysurus which is seriously rare were the hot fish last winter till few months back.

If you would contact a Kenya supplier and big a price he would just laugh.
HK importers went crazy and bid seriously high prices so a nice specimen was going for over 10 grands in HK.

If one specimen will go to Los Angeles I dont think it will be sold at 1/10 of this price, but basicly the Kenya suppliers knows who to offer these fish to.
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Old 09/19/2007, 07:01 AM
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Shame on the person who posted these photos as their own.
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Old 09/19/2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Vili_Shark
Is this in HK? are ya sure?!?

Triggerfish76
HK market is almost always cheaper than US market , I guess besides Hawaii and Craibean fish any other fish will be cheaper in HK.

It got alot to do with the market situation, for example, macolosus x semicirculatus or maculosus x chruysurus which is seriously rare were the hot fish last winter till few months back.

If you would contact a Kenya supplier and big a price he would just laugh.
HK importers went crazy and bid seriously high prices so a nice specimen was going for over 10 grands in HK.

If one specimen will go to Los Angeles I dont think it will be sold at 1/10 of this price, but basicly the Kenya suppliers knows who to offer these fish to.
Do u know how to apply for a CITES permit in order to ship out of country?
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Old 09/19/2007, 11:36 AM
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Huh? what it got to do with a cites permit?
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Old 09/19/2007, 11:29 PM
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Huh? what it got to do with a cites permit?
For ship the live stock to overseas from U.S
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Old 09/20/2007, 03:18 AM
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Hi Jan_one!
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Old 09/20/2007, 07:31 AM
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For ship the live stock to overseas from U.S
These Angelfish hybrids needs no cites.
I dont know how to get a cites in US, Im not there.
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Old 09/20/2007, 10:38 AM
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These Angelfish hybrids needs no cites.
I dont know how to get a cites in US, Im not there.
Oh! really? so where are u?
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Old 09/20/2007, 10:39 AM
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Hi Jan_one!
Hi waterfaller! nice to see u here!
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Old 09/20/2007, 04:03 PM
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Jan one, your tank is just awesome! Maybe the most beautiful fishes I have seen. Your clarion angel is magnificient and I can't believe you have seadragons! Those are sweet... For how long do you have them? Do you have some other pics of your fishes that you could share?

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Old 09/20/2007, 07:07 PM
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CITES: Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species.

An animal/plant needs to be listed in a CITES index in order to fall under CITES regulation. NO marine angelfish species and in fact very few marine fish in general are CITES listed (Seahorses and the Napolean wrasse are the most notable). Please feel free to look this up yourself:

http://www.cites.org/

Therefore, you do not need a CITES permit to import an animal that is NOT CITES listed. You will need permission from US Fish and Wildlife however.
 


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