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if hes fine then leave him be, probably a benign tumor, even so all tumors are packed with tiny blood vessels and cutting it out yourself will most likely lead to the fish bleeding to death.
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An alternative would be to burn the tumor off with a cigarette
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slice a sharp knife through the backbone. fast easy and definately dead. May twitch a bit but its just nerves
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I just deed the fish to my cat
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Uh, I don't think the point of putting the fish in the freezer was to torture it.
With a fish being the size that it is, it can't take long for it's body temperature to go down quickly. Our body temp., if I remember correctly, drops rapidly once it hits 90 degrees. It probably takes two seconds for the fish to actually die, and all of the body systems are probably just shut down. The only painful thing about it would be it having to breathe air directly, but then again, it wouldn't be for long. My solution: Stick it in the freezer for a few seconds, it can't live that long. |
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uhhh, fish are cold blooded, not warm. therefore, body temp=water temp.
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Uh, exactly what I was trying to say. Meaning if you put them in the freezer, their body temp would rapidly drop just fast enough that all of their systems shut down.
Kinda like Hypothermia. |
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The last time I had a sick fish I took my AK-47 and Euthanized it. Nothing a 100 rounds of hot lead wouldn't fix....
Just kiddin... (I only used 70 rounds....) |
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Freezing a fish is not humane. It actually causes the fish a graet deal of pain. Again, the only method I would use, is clove oil, folllowed by alcohol.
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again, I encourage people to read this thread:
http://tropicalresources.net/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=3720 |
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the guy in that thread who said he talked to his vet is full of crap (or maybe his vet is). directly from the AVMA website, under the special considerations heading AMPHIBIANS, FISH, AND REPTILES-- "use of clove oil is not acceptable" followed by "euthanization by cooling of REPTILES is inhumane, EVEN IF combined with physical or chemical methods" At no time does it deal with fish, particularly warm water marine species.In fact, the only openly endorsed methods mentioned are decapitation (followed by pithing), or injection (and the injections are $$$, according to my sister, a vet)
I use freezing (as I have said before), after conversations with several PhD's of marine biology, and a vet (my sister, as mentioned above). according to them, the enzmes used in metabolism in tropical marine fish basically cease to function at about 50 degrees. Also, while there is evidence that fish feel discomfort, that can't be equated to feeling pain the same way we do. Also, the guy that claims that most sharks are warm blooded is wrong. some sharks, while still basically ectothermic, can slightly raise their body temps above that of the surrounding water for short periods of time (Great Whites and Makos use this to give them bursts of speed for hunting, for example) |
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Hammer. It's the only way to go.
Works great on mice caught in sticky traps also. Just make sure you have good aim, and with mice, there will be quite a bit of splatter.
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Why not an axe? you get the decapacitation of a knife and the power of a hammer! best of both worlds
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ok if your looking for a fast humane death just put it in the ole blender and turn it on high. Presto! Instant death.
How can you possibly deny that? |
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flush 'em
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Yeah I'd say flush it down as well, at least thats what I do...
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I accidentally dropped a beta down the garbage disposal once. I tried to get it out but couldn't...
Turned on the water and flipped the switch. Took about half a second.
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A fish that has parasites or a certain strain of a disease that is not indigenous to the area where you release your diseased fish could indeed wipe out the native local population that doesn't have a natural immunity to that particular disease.
I think you know this and are just trying to start something... |
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I cannot believe I just read this entire thread.....
One way to put a fish to death is to drop into the tanks of some of the lfs here in Chattanooga...... |
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I just feed them to the neighbor's cats who are always crapping in my rose beds. Quick and painless for me, nutritious for the cats.
I am just kidding by the way. I have stuck them in the freezer as well. |
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I have done the freezer method on a sick GSM one time. It didn't take very long and he didn't struggle or anything like that, so I asume it wasn't painfull. I know most cold blooded fish, reptiles, ect.. go into a state of hibernation before they actually die so it's not painfull.
To the guy with the angel witht he tumor, there are many vets that will do surgury on fish. Look for a exotic animal vet in your area they could at least point you in the right direction. I had a big oscar that got his bottom jaw sliced through by one of my pirahnas and i took him in. They put him to sleep and stiched him up.
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GODS OF MERCY this is still going!
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sorry just jumping in, the freezer is a horrible way, the fish is alive for the most part of the freezing process, each cell starting with those closest to the skin start to freeze, even when in water, the cell expands and then bursts, causing extreme pain for the fish, thats why the fish is constantly flipping out. flopping spazing. its a very painful ordeal, if you dont have a problem with up close, use a knife. |
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