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Old 10/22/2007, 01:33 PM
cateyes cateyes is offline
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Mantis sensitivity to Flatworm Exit???

i've got a mantis "Igor" that's in a frag tank that is loaded with flatworms.... i want to move Igor but don't want him to transport any flatworms with him....

should i dip him in Flatworm Exit? how sensitive are mantis' to being dipped... i've had him 2 years and don't want to kill him but i'm trying to get rid of the flatworms....

any suggestions?

thanks, lisa (and Igor)
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Old 10/22/2007, 07:27 PM
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I know it's hard on the pod population so I'd guess it's a risk. How about moving him through a couple of dips of tank water and then to a Q tank while you're treating for flatworms. If there's evidence of flatworms in the Q tank while you treat the main tank you can address it then,


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Old 10/24/2007, 12:28 AM
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Try a sixline wrasse. Your mantis might kill it but They do a great job with flatworms . You also might try some velvet slugs although they seem to make a B line for the overflow. I have seen some stomatopods ignore the speedy sixline.
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Old 10/24/2007, 07:30 AM
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It will be fine because mine did fine and its a baby and i just did it like 5 days ago. hth
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Old 10/26/2007, 10:35 AM
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thanks guys,,, i think i'll put him thriugh a lite dip or two and see if that does the trick... lisa
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Old 10/26/2007, 04:44 PM
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I have used flat worm exit to my mantis tank. Just do a 10 to 15% water change, because dead flat release a toxin when they die.See you at the next meeting.
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Old 10/26/2007, 06:31 PM
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I have used flat worm exit to my mantis tank. Just do a 10 to 15% water change, because dead flat release a toxin when they die.See you at the next meeting.
hey,,, thanks David... i'm going to give dipping him a try.... see you then.
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Old 10/28/2007, 10:29 PM
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Nothing is so quickly rewarding as seeing flatworms peel of the glass after using exit.
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Old 10/31/2007, 10:52 AM
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I nuked the flatworms in my old mantis tank with FWE, with no problems. I used a 5x dose or so (the directions do not work, must use more) and ran carbon when they started to float and a pretty good sized water change within an hour.
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Old 10/31/2007, 11:55 AM
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^I 2nd what Thurge said. I didn't even know my teeny tiny mantis was alive and threw a huge FWE dose at the tank (it was in my refugium) with no ill results.
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Old 10/31/2007, 06:32 PM
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i've actually dosed and redosed the tank minus Igor, and still the flatworms return. it makes me wonder if he is retransporting them back into the tank.... all will get a dipping very soon .... thanks,,,, lisa
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Old 10/31/2007, 09:20 PM
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I have always dosed more than what they call for, i don't think they would be on the mantis, but you never know what to expect.
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Old 11/01/2007, 08:35 PM
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This is great to hear because i has a bunch as well
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Old 11/04/2007, 08:07 AM
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Yeah, I'm tried of picking them off the glass, time to EXIT! Unfortunately, I got my mantis and his LRubble from the LFS (Local Flatworm Store).
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Old 11/06/2007, 06:45 PM
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wow i was wondering about this just the other day. faltowrms everywhere in my nano and wondered about my peacocks sensitivty to FWE.

What is the ideal way to use FWE on a 14g? remove all filter media? or can i leave the polyfilter in while i treat? how long before the flatworms die off?
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Old 11/07/2007, 11:39 AM
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see i just got a gonipora like a month ago, and its got a few flat worms that stay on it only.

so i was going to just dip the coral in a seperate container.

but, how exactly does it affect the pods?
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Old 11/10/2007, 06:32 PM
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i just treated my 14g nano with FWE for the first time. I used 8 drops per gallon instead of the recommended 4. Within minutes my tank had 10 floaters everywhere. My pods didnt seem to be effected in the least. I did a 2 gallon water change 1 hour later and added a bag of chemipure. Instant relief. Oh and my mantis is a-ok.
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Old 11/11/2007, 09:55 AM
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Someone mentioned a six line wrasse to control the worms. How about a mandarin goby? Is using fish to control this just a waste of time?
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Old 11/11/2007, 05:53 PM
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it is if you have a mantis. i dont know about yours but mine destroyed my 6 line.
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Old 11/12/2007, 12:10 PM
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Something to consider is that Flat Worms are taking up nutrents that you would otherwise go to nuscense algae. The day I got rid of my last flat worm marked the beginning of my never ending battle with algae. I still debate reinnoculating the tank just to curb the algae.
And yes I do weekly large water changes, but that doesn't stop the hair algae or the new invader Valona.
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Old 11/12/2007, 04:33 PM
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Someone mentioned a six line wrasse to control the worms. How about a mandarin goby? Is using fish to control this just a waste of time?
A good option?
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Old 11/12/2007, 04:53 PM
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Mandarins (they are dragonets, not gobies) eat almost exclusively live microcrustaceans (pods). They generally need about 75 lbs of old, seasoned live rock to thrive. They are also not only peaceful fish but exude a toxic slime. I consider them one of the few "most pessimum" fish to put into a mantis tank.

A six-line wrasse is a vastly better choice for this sort of thing. Mandarins don't eat worms!

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