Colony sliming?

t5Nitro · #1 07/26/2007, 07:03 PM

I got this one SPS colony 2 weeks ago and it was sliming up a lot, so I moved it to the sand bed in a different area of the tank. It was fine then, but no PE yet. Still not much of PE, none on most branches but very little on a few branches. People told me to remove the foam filter intake on the return pump, so I did. Now you can tell there are more microbubbles in the tank and that colony is sliming a lot again. Would that be the cause of it? The extra microbubbles?

Thanks.

t5Nitro · #2 07/26/2007, 09:19 PM

I shut the flow off except for the return and it cut back the sliming quite a bit, so maybe it's the flow? What should I do with it?

Still no PE since over 2 weeks ago when I got it.

t5Nitro · #3 07/26/2007, 09:56 PM

Anyone?

ryhl · #4 07/26/2007, 10:18 PM

The sps doesn't look to be very happy. IME, flow should not be the cause...it seems to be problems with water parameter. Any other sps doing the same?

t5Nitro · #5 07/26/2007, 10:30 PM

Nope, other SPS seem to have nice color and grow well. PE is good.

CalvinC4S · #6 07/27/2007, 12:32 AM

I notice events like this when a coral goes through a radical change. temp swings, chemistry swings or moving it???

karlmarx · #7 07/27/2007, 03:17 AM

Did you use latex gloves when handeling the coral?Also is this a wild colony?

t5Nitro · #8 07/27/2007, 10:46 AM

It was from the frag swap Live Aquaria had about 3 weeks ago. I use the thick rubber gloves for anything that Drs. Foster and Smith sells. I don't know if it was a wild colony, the person I got it from had it in his tank and he said he broke it off while cleaning the tank.

Serioussnaps · #9 07/27/2007, 10:51 AM

What concerns me more than the sliming is the necrosis on the inner part of the colony. If I had photoshop I would circle it for you. How long has it been sliming?

t5Nitro · #10 07/27/2007, 10:59 AM

Do you mean that faded part at the bottom? I was told maybe the no PE and loss of color at the bottom was maybe the original colony that piece that I have was maybe under the other branches - low light/low flow.

It slimed when I first put it in there and I moved it to the middle of the tank on the sand. Then it quit sliming for a long time, as of yesterday it started sliming a lot again, so I moved it back to the rocks where the pic above is sliming a lot. I checked with a flashlight today and it is sliming a little, but not nearly as much as the pic above.

I know it's an acro, it has an acro crab in it. People said it was the good kind of acro crab, the smooth white one.

What kind of requirments would it need? High light, high flow? High light, medium flow? I have a good spot under high light high on the rocks, but I think it's not as much flow in that area. I have montiporas in that area doing real well.

Serioussnaps · #11 07/27/2007, 12:17 PM

There is necrosis. It was probably there when you bought it. This is why you have to know what to spot when you are buying you so you dont buy one that is STN'ing. Look in the middle on the inner parts of the branches closer to the bottom..its white and irregular. I never start anything in high light.....there are only rare exceptions where I SEE the coral baking 8 inches from a 400 W 10K bulb then I may put it up top in my tank otherwise I always start on the bottom in high flow. When in doubt, after you get a new Acro start it in lower light and higher flow and adjust. The sliming is an indication from stress. What kind of stress I can't say as it could be 50 different things, which is why you should know what to look for when buying and what to look for when things go wrong. If you can't do this dont buy.

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Originally posted by t5Nitro
Do you mean that faded part at the bottom? I was told maybe the no PE and loss of color at the bottom was maybe the original colony that piece that I have was maybe under the other branches - low light/low flow.

It slimed when I first put it in there and I moved it to the middle of the tank on the sand. Then it quit sliming for a long time, as of yesterday it started sliming a lot again, so I moved it back to the rocks where the pic above is sliming a lot. I checked with a flashlight today and it is sliming a little, but not nearly as much as the pic above.

I know it's an acro, it has an acro crab in it. People said it was the good kind of acro crab, the smooth white one.

What kind of requirments would it need? High light, high flow? High light, medium flow? I have a good spot under high light high on the rocks, but I think it's not as much flow in that area. I have montiporas in that area doing real well.

t5Nitro · #12 07/27/2007, 02:43 PM

Check this out. I put it in the SPS ID forum and this is how it looked when I first got it, and it has been low in my tank since I got it near 3 weeks ago, so take a look at the bottom then. I think it may be recovering a bit.

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1154743

t5Nitro · #13 07/27/2007, 02:44 PM

Just knowing how much easier a FOWLR is to take care of..........

lazaro torres · #14 07/27/2007, 04:51 PM

what kind of suplements are you using.

Lobster · #15 07/27/2007, 05:12 PM

Those look more like the thin filaments the coral extends as a feeding response than slime produced from distress.

I think I have that same coral... got a big piece of it a couple weeks ago.

t5Nitro · #16 07/27/2007, 10:04 PM

I use 2 part.

So you think it's OK then lobster? I've had it for about 3 weeks with basically no PE though. Just on the top branches there is a few branches that have little PE.

It is better today, not nearly as much slime as the above pic, but still has some slime.

I dosed 1 cap of phytofeast yesterday and 1 cap today. I started that since I got some tigger pods. Someone on RC recommended those to me since I got mandarin and he says he doses 1 cap a day in his 50 gallon, so I'm sure it's not the phytofeast doing anything, unless like you said it is feeding from it and that is a feeding response?

Lobster · #17 07/28/2007, 11:38 AM

Cover the basics first.

What are you using for flow? I would pick an area with high random flow and medium light and leave it there for a while. Don't keep handling it and moving it around. If its a large branch, you probably don't want to lay the whole thing against the side of a rock... you will restrict flow around the tissue. Mount it so its oriented in a way that water is able to circulate through the whole coral.

What about water quality? Are you keeping alkalinity stable? What's your nitrate and phosphate test at? A new coral may have a hard time adjusting to water quality issues, even though existing corals appear fine.

If you are certain your water quality is OK, and you are really having trouble with placement, you may want to take a few 1-2" frags and mount them on plugs. Place the frags in different areas of the tank and see how they respond... that may give you an idea of what the coral needs. Plus if the colony dies at least you had frags.

I think you will get better help here if you post more information about the system the coral is in. Otherwise, everyone can only speculate and you will get advice that has you chasing your tail.