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ok mummra. rid yourself of gas for a month and see what happens to your life, job, and everything else. as much as you dont want to admit it, gas is needed for most peoples daily function. maybe a century ago we didnt need gas for normal life but in todays culture it is a must. gasoline and other petro products are not just a source of fuel for a car.
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i guess if you live in the outbacks then gas is not needed. but where i am from, no gas= no job= no money my friend.
maybe you make an invention of a coral skeleton propel car, then you can sell it for LE price and rule the world. who ever says gas is not needed must got stung by a zoanthid. |
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To all you people saying you can live without gas are you speaking from experiance? Last year for almost three weeks here in South Florida there was no gas in the wake of Hurricanes Wilma & Katrina. When a few stations finally did get that limmited few gallons the lines were miles long on the Florida Turnpike this place was in gridlock. No busses, no public transportation, nothing. Put that together with almost a month with no electricity & and you have a recipe for disaster. I would say 80% of all businesses were still shut down a week after the hurricane. Now yes back in 1776 thing could function without gas & electricity but in this modern age we live in to say you don't need it....well your just plain naieve. And for anyone who would like to rebut this as fact Hurricane season will be here at the end of the month when the next one hits come stand in our shoes. As for TYree I think I'll start a post why Corvetts cost more than a Cavalier I mean there both Chevys....right. Just remember you always have a choice if you don't like what on change the channel. No one will ever force you to buy a Tyree coral. J.M.O.
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people still bike around all the time
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the tyree thing has 2 sides to it. on the negative side. he takes a whole colony that would sell for $100 at an lfs and chops it up, gives it the royal name and just like that each small frag is worth $100. so by the whole LE thing being around, corals that would be affordable become out of reach for some.
but there are also benenfits to this. it promotes aquaculturing, it creates a niche for us buffs of the rare and unusual, and it adds a whole other dimension to the hobby. it used to be just bland brown corals for the most part. then as the hobby grew out came insane mushrooms, lps, and sps. now we even have another dimension of the most colorful and rare. its good for the hobby and as much as it hurts to spend a days worth of pay on a frag, i cant deny that no one is forcing me to. |
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btw, i cant believe no one mentioned the rbta as a fad "coral lol". those things were like the holey grail for a while. then they started splitting, and then split some more. now days, they are easy to find for cheap lol.
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Whatever you say my friend, go on and spend you money, enjoy.
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Still refusing to admit you are wrong. I'll ask again. Got any pics of your LE riddled aquarium?
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For those of you bashing closet, I don't belive you read his post clearly. He specifically states that not using gas would crumble modern society.
So, assuming you like your life and society the way it is, you need gas. It is a closet philosopher's post, don't try to argue against it with common sense, LOL. |
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funny we should start a fuel thread somewhere else. as far LE it is a free market and even though i disagree every one has the right to charge and pay what ever they want so have at it.
if you go 10 minutes w/out air...you die. if you go w/out water for a few days...you die. if you go w/out food for a few weeks...you die. if you go w/out shelter for an extended amount of time...you die. if you go w/out fuel...you...walk! it's silly to think we could ever give up our cars (me included)...but need is a very strong word that should be replaced by a great desire? a big want? something i do not think i can live with out? not need. i want my car also and would always prefer to walk but never do i want to admit i need fuel.
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In "our" society fuel is NEEDED. That is the bottom line. Take it for what you want but it is as simple as that. LE corals are NOT NEEDED as stated in my original post.
I am in the same boat as Al G Benny and would like to see your LE 6" watermelon chalice mummra. |
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This thread is one of the funniest yet. I dont buy LE's, I don't think anyone should bash those who do or who sell them. It is their choice to do whatever they want. No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. Last ime i checked, we are living in a free society.
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Some of the Tyree stuff is pretty nice. A lot of it is 'outdated' (IMHO) to be still calling it 'LE'. I don't have a problem with any of it. The original owner of the coral is getting a lot of advertising for frags that he can now sell at a higher price because they have been put into a national market (via Reef Farmers) and Reef Farmers makes their money on it from those willing to pay.
I think it's also fair to mention that most (if not all) of the current LE's are at least 2nd generation captive corals. When you buy wild corals you never know how it will turn out, sometimes even better than it looked when it came in, sometimes not. Essentially the original owner has taken that variable out of the equation, you know that your coral will look similar under similar captive conditions. I have purchased one or two LE's in the past, I don't think I have any now (if I do they came from friends, or I owned them before they were 'LE'). I doubt I'll purchase any in the future, mainly because I'm in the middle of California and there is good stuff all over the place out here! (sorry all you land-locked suckas ). Most of my nicest stuff has been free, or nearly free from good friends - but not everyone has that luxury.
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How do you get your food? Do you hunt it or grow it? Nope. You have to buy it. How do you have a shelter? Did you build it on free land? Nope. You have rent or a mortgage. Where do you get the money to pay for these NEEDS? With another NEED. GAS. You my friend my not want to admit it, but you need fuel. Unless you live with the Amish, or in the wilderness somewhere, you need fuel to survive in this age. Comparing a need for fuel and a need for corals are comparing Apples to Oranges. If you didn't NEED fuel, you sure wouldn't have a reef tank. They can't be compared. You can need Fuel, but not need a coral. Corals are wants. For all the people that have the means to read this forum, we need fuel.
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when you free your mind from the 19th century then talk to me.
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Yeah your right i guess I'll tell my 70 year old grandmother to walk to the store to get her grocerys & medication & lug 80 pound worth of grocerys on the back of a bike. Like I said earlier Hurricane season will be hear next month I live in Coral Springs Fl. come on down. Don't speak about what you don't know!
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This is a hypothetical topic but to alot of people in Florida & Lousiana it's not.
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To be honest I don't think I want your 70 year old grandma driveing for much longer..nor mine while we are at it. Thankfully we almost got talked out of renewing her DL
This is like trying to explain to a crack adict that they don't "need" crack.
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Amen...RandyO! Just really think about it....our economy would shut down with out fuel! No more imports/exports, hundreds of thousand of jobs lost,no way to defend our country or give aid to other countries,no more food brought to you. We no longer live in a world where we have the choice to do without. yes some would survive, but alot would not!
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ok i will now admit that i am 74% amish and have to pray for 18 hrs. every time i use this computer to answer this thread. please forgive me.lol
please no one get mad at the need fuel debate. it was used as a worst case scenerio and let me state again i drive all over the place (sometimes just to visit my dogs in the back yard). i am in no way an eco nut and i am fully aware of how fuel drives our world economy...it's just funny to look at the very stripped down definition of a need and see what few items fit into that definition. i would like to also add that i would feel very bad if any of my posts made any 70 year old grandmas have to lug 80lbs. of any thing any where. if need be i will come pick them up.lol as far as LE corals both sides are right. they are way to pricey and if you got spend it. what ever makes you happy.
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