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Crosshatch trigger Bluethroat HYBRID???
Anyone ever hear of a Crosshatch/Bluethroat? I think I have one but I'm not too sure. I will post picture later.
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I have never heard of this but trigger hybrids are not well documented. Please post a pic!
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Yes Pics please
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if it's the one that's in your avatar it sure as heck looks like a hybrid. The fins and face appear to be a bluethroat while the tail and body look like a pink tail, very interesting looking fish.
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Thats a male crosshatch in his avatar.
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ah, I'm not too familiar with triggers, beautiful fish
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WHERE IS THE PICCCCC
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Hey trigger 1976, I like your avatar better. Thats the pic. I have as my wallpaer on my desktop. I hope to catch one some day but thats a whole nother ball game.
Anyway, I am waiting for a friend to bring a camera to my house. As soon as we get a pic I will send it off. The most noticable diff. is slightly diff scale pattern, different color caudal fin (orange rather than red) and a few other differences on the face markings. In all possibilty it could be a large (10in) female that just decided she wants to be a male. Perhaps I just caught her before the transformation is complete. Either way it has several other moderately experienced fish people confused. |
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If you catch one try and find another one for me
I was actually thinking the same thing about the color change but either way I am looking forward to the pic. I actually had a pair of crosshatch triggers for a while and they were by the far the most attractive triggers IMOP. |
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I also have a pair and this is very intriguing to me as well. I sort of pictured it as being a male crosshatch with a blues throat, yellow tail and a darker green coloration. Cant wait to see the pick. I am also suprised that one has not been observed sooner since the bluethroat appears to be quite similar to the female sex of the crosshatch. I can only think of equating it to the holy grail of tangs (achilles/gold rim hybrid) if this is infact a hybrid.
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I got the Crosshatches from a online vendor. The Angel pic is just a photo I found on the net. I would really love to have one and had a chance to get a pair last year but they tend to need cooler tanks for long term survival so I passed.
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lol Alika most of my fish are form you
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OK, here are the pictures:
Apologies for the bad quality - the fish wasn't in the mood to sit still for the camera! Anyhow, you can see what made us think it might be a hybrid - the tail is orange rather than red, and the spots on each scale are short vertical bars instead of little blue dots. When we caught this fish, the rim of its tail was bright yellow. That was two weeks ago, and during that period it's darkened considerably and is starting to look pretty red. After looking at it more carefully this afternoon, I think it was just a female crosshatch that was starting to turn male when we caught it. The idea of a crosshatch/bluethroat hybrid makes a lot of sense, though - they are fairly closely related, and since one species is very rare on this island it you'd expect them to interbreed from time to time. |
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I agree with your assessment. It is deffinately a male crosshatch trigger at this stage but it is still very interesting that you were able to witness the sex change.
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we will continue to hold it to see if it finishes the change. If it does not then we will find out what it is and let yall know. If I was a betting man I would put my money on female changing into male.
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Nice trigger. How large is it by the way?
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About 10inches, maybe a little bigger.
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I'd agree that it's probably just a sex change.
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Its strange that the body color still seems rather bland. The other large male crosshatch I have are kind of golden, but this specimen is more greyish. PErhaps thats the last visible difference of the sexes...
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I caught another one a few days ago, and I think it looks more like a hybrid. The jaw seems to be a little more blue. Several others still think its a sex change but I am starting to lean a little more twords hybrid now. We have asked some local fish experts what they think, and they are indeed not yet documented. We will be taking the newest specimen to a pro and see what he thinks. I will try get more pics out soon.
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I've seen some pics too of these guys where a few have been collected recently... you guys are doing the right thing... Let me know what good old John Randall has to say! If you have to donate one to science it'll be in the right hands!
Until then it's all speculation... but you guys are lucky that the foremost expert also lives on your little island, and is only "half-retired" Exciting stuff though!
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This is the "throat" of the potential hybrid. |
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You may want to double-check this, but there is an LFS in Tampa the gets all of thier stock from a diver in HI and he recently identified a trio of odd looking triggers as a crosshatch/bluethroat hybrid.. I think they even named it after him..
the LFS is called "Finz".. FWIW |
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