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Old 01/15/2007, 04:53 PM
zeppelin zeppelin is offline
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The word 'Japanese' in a coral description

I saw a coral on ebay listed as 'Japanese Acan Maxima' yesterday. To me it looks like a lobo and not an acan, but thats a different subject. Anyways, when I questioned the vendor, not only about it not being an acan, but about the fact that acan maxima isn't even found anywhere NEAR Japan, here is the response I got regarding the description:

"Japanese is a term used in the hobby for describing high end Trachophyllia and Acan due to the prices the Japanese hobbyeist pay for them. It's not a description of geography where they come from."

Is this really a trend I am not aware of?
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Old 01/15/2007, 05:31 PM
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Here is the coral in question, BTW.

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Old 01/15/2007, 05:32 PM
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The guy you are talking about is a.... many words fit here.. none positive...The ecoralz guy right? many here have had some form of bad experience with him... Maximas are not from Japan... and your on target... its not a trend... Its HIS trend LOL he lables everything "Jap" or "Japanese" to lure the noob buyer that does not know any better

A few of us have been talking about that very problem
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Old 01/15/2007, 05:41 PM
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Yep. Thats him.
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Old 01/15/2007, 05:48 PM
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You guys are like SO behind the times... Don't you know that anything that's rare is now "Japanese".
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Old 01/15/2007, 05:54 PM
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LOL

I have some Japanese Zooossss
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Old 01/15/2007, 06:07 PM
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I just got screwed by that seller. If the seller doesn't resolve it, and it doesn't sound like he will, I'll be disputing the transaction with paypal.

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Old 01/15/2007, 06:07 PM
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I purchased a couple of things from this guy about a month ago. First of, shipping was a joke: $80 for 4 pieces. Secondly, he didn't include one of the items I ordered and only reimbursed me for that piece, no shipping. His online store is called cquarium, but uses ecoralz as his ebay store. He often puts the same piece up for auction on ebay while it is still for sale on his site. Very poor customer service. Buyer beware!
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Old 01/15/2007, 06:14 PM
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Ive now coined the term for corals of mine.

"argolactinite"

i will now be charging premium prices for my argolactinite bubble algae, and the very rare, expensive, argolactinite "glass like" anemone's that grow extremely well.
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Old 01/15/2007, 06:37 PM
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yep www.cquarium.com is the same as e-coral at ebay. Do with that info what ever you want
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Old 01/15/2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: The word 'Japanese' in a coral description

Quote:
"Japanese is a term used in the hobby for describing high end Trachophyllia and Acan due to the prices the Japanese hobbyeist pay for them. It's not a description of geography where they come from."

Is this really a trend I am not aware of?
It sure is, I have some Japanese GSP for sale right now, $150 a frag. PM me quick, it won't last.

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Old 01/15/2007, 08:31 PM
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Those GSPs are hot pink and red, right?
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Old 01/15/2007, 09:04 PM
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Plain & simple, the guy is a lying fraud!!!!
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Old 01/15/2007, 09:12 PM
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The following are absolute quotes I really did not make this stuff up...


SUPER! Cyphystrea Micromussa Live coral Acanthastrea
ONCE IN A LIFETIME COLONY FOR THE UNIQUE COLLECTOR !!

SUPER RARE! Micromussa diminuta Live coral Acanthastrea
ONCE IN A LIFETIME COLONY FOR THE UNIQUE COLLECTOR !!

Japanese Acanthastrea maxima Live coral Micromussa
ONCE IN A LIFETIME CORAL FOR THE UNIQUE COLLECTOR !!

SUPER RARE! Micromussa diminuta Live coral Acanthastrea
ONCE IN A LIFETIME COLONY FOR THE UNIQUE COLLECTOR !!

ATOMIC !! Japanese Trachophyllia Live coral Micromussa


The following are all taken from his obvious Thesaurus of impressive adjectives:

ATOMIC!, AMAZING!, HURRY, GORGEOUS, SMASHING, EXTREMELY RARE!, VERY RARE, SUPER RARE, RARE, ONE OF A KIND, GODZILLA, SPECTACULAR, STUNNING, NUCLEAR, WOW, WICKED
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Old 01/15/2007, 09:20 PM
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rare

Looks like alot of this guy's pictures on ebay are very manipulated with contrast and color. that's one sure sign.
it's sad that so many people are ruining this hobby with Greed.
it's expensive enough already without having to worry about being ripped of with buying common corals marked up 3 times by being called rare.
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Old 01/15/2007, 09:22 PM
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what the heck is a Cyphystrea Micromussa ??
Is that similar to an acropora palythoa??
Or a montipora Krakatoa??
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Old 01/15/2007, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by doctor64776
LOL

I have some Japanese Zooossss
Me to. I live in Okinawa, Japan and snorkel over them on a weekly basis. Every book ive read say they dont thrive in Japan, ive proved those books wrong many times.

Same goes for a few other types of coral...
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Old 01/15/2007, 09:27 PM
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Wish I could snorkle over them But without having to wear a uniform
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Old 01/15/2007, 09:28 PM
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Doc don't get me started (LOL) the funny thing is he quotes descriptions for the Jen Veron Coral Of the World Volumes & in Volume 3 under Mussidea is the same lobo w/ the same color morph labled Lobophyllia Hemprichii. What a scam!
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Old 01/15/2007, 11:09 PM
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i was thinking lately the reference to japanese corals was to corals that seem to have 3 or more colors in them and sort of along the same lines as "rainbow" ... and someone had thought the brains in particular coming from near japan had this coloration due to the waters there.

To say its because of high prices is like saying "Hi I am going to charge you an arm and a leg for my crappy coral and you're going to fall for it because I made a slick euphemism"

gah.
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Old 01/15/2007, 11:38 PM
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http://www.splash-sea.co.jp/zukan/zukan02.html


Get the picture?
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Old 01/15/2007, 11:48 PM
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Just.. wow. I think i really do need to move to japan.
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Old 01/16/2007, 12:01 AM
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Wow did you see that red carpet anemone?
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Old 01/16/2007, 12:56 AM
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i thought it was illegal to import corals from japan anyway?

either way, this guy sounds like a ripoff.
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Old 01/16/2007, 05:32 AM
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Actually, the multiple keywords in his listings is against ebay policy. It is called keyword spamming. One way to get it under control is to report the seller to ebay.

BTW, I got an e-mail back from this guy this morning telling me he was going to report ME to ebay for using his pic in this thread.
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