210 underway!~~~and a few questions~~~

Hendersonracing · #1 05/23/2006, 08:06 AM

HERE IS MY NEW PROJECT A 210 GALLON WALL UNIT REEF AQUARIUM....Ill probably have a few questions along the way so any help would be appreciated...

and here is a picture of my 55 I like this rock!!!

does anyone know about this pump? this is what the lfs got me for my 210 gallon???? they are saying this is all I need for my 210? 1 pump but the tank has 2 over flows? also do you run the lines from the bottom of the tank to the sump from one side then return them to the other side from the sump? it looks like to me you would run the lines from the tank from each side not the same? any help would be appreciated.....

3here is the website he got the pump from

www.pondmaster.com

its a 02740 model #

is there a better pump I should get or is this sufficient?

Hendersonracing · #2 05/23/2006, 08:12 AM

this is what the over flows look like they have 2 holes in each overflow assuming one to go to the tank and the other from the sump back in? but the lfs says both lines that come from the tank come from the same overflow???

Hendersonracing · #3 05/23/2006, 08:18 AM

also here is my filtration

Hendersonracing · #4 05/23/2006, 08:25 AM

anybody? know about this pump or should I go different...the lfs said to split it off but Im not thinking thats true?

dkh0331 · #5 05/23/2006, 08:30 AM

The pump is a Mag 2400 - 2400 gph w/ no head pressure.

Reef Central is full of great information. If you haven't purchased anything yet, you really should investigate your equipment/hardware options before you plop down your hard earned dead presidents. Some LFS are known to sell what they want to sell, not what you need.

BTW, the framework looks great. Looks like it will be a very nice set-up.

HTH
David

Hendersonracing · #6 05/23/2006, 09:52 AM

what is the no head pressure mean? Sorry so dump Im just new here and jumping head first in a HUGH project!!!!lol Ill check out and ask questions in there to see what everyone recommends.....

waynesworld · #7 05/23/2006, 10:43 AM

http://www.aquariumpros.com/articles/headpress.shtml

Here is a good link for head pressure.

Ramble On Rose · #8 05/23/2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Hendersonracing

this is what the over flows look like they have 2 holes in each overflow assuming one to go to the tank and the other from the sump back in? but the lfs says both lines that come from the tank come from the same overflow???

Im assuming you are getting an AGA 210 with the megaflows. That is the exact same tank I have. It should have a 1" and 3/4" hole in each overflow. The "standard" way is to have 1" be the drains then 3/4" be the return. Myself - I have all 4 as drains and run my returns over the top. In retrospect now, I probably would not do the same thing because I could get away with not running so much flow through the overflows as I am.

What are you planning on keeping in the tank? Knowing that will go a long way in determining equipment. If you are planning SPS - I would go with just a plain old sump and get a nice skimmer. If you are not doing many corals or just softies, that type of filtration may be ok.

Hendersonracing · #9 05/23/2006, 11:18 AM

I was planning on adding alot of corals eventually? We are spending alot of money getting this thing going so I want to put the best in...I was considering a refergium but I hear people going both ways ? do you have only one pump? mine says 2400 gpr ill have to y it off to each part of the tank.....im looking for picture perfect water quality...
Thanks Joe any help Would be appreciated

Hendersonracing · #10 05/23/2006, 11:25 AM

the light should be here Thursday it was a little costly but its 1 complete light made for the tank with all the lights I need they said like 700+ watts they recommend a dehumidifier in the room, we were going to add a line running from it out of the side of the house for drainage? has anyone ever done this?

Ramble On Rose · #11 05/23/2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by Hendersonracing
I was planning on adding alot of corals eventually? We are spending alot of money getting this thing going so I want to put the best in...I was considering a refergium but I hear people going both ways ? do you have only one pump? mine says 2400 gpr ill have to y it off to each part of the tank.....im looking for picture perfect water quality...
Thanks Joe any help Would be appreciated

Well if you want the best, then you definatly want some better filtration. Look at a nice skimmer if you really want to keep your water clean. Depending on your budget - Deltecs, Euro Reefs, ASM are all popular brands around here. Personally I have a small budget - thus the ASM! I only have 1 return pump, but a few Tunze for in tank water movement, the Tunze wave box (which is great), and the pumps for the skimmer.

As far as a fuge goes, again it comes down to your "vision" for the tank. Are you using a sand bed? Bare bottom? you basically need to pick a "method". Most people with sand beds have a fuge. Most people with bare bottom tanks keep things supper clean and don't use a fuge. Then there are a millilon people in between that use different parts of different methods.

Hendersonracing · #12 05/23/2006, 03:54 PM

we have a protein skimmer on the way we are going to do a small sanbed and see what happens we can add a fuge later if we need to

Hendersonracing · #13 05/24/2006, 09:40 AM

http://www.hendersonracing.net/REEF.HTML

dkh0331 · #14 05/24/2006, 09:55 AM

Since you are going to make this a reef tank, I would:

1) Dump the bio balls in the sump.
2) If the LFS is equipping this for you, I would get a listing of equipment he is suggesting and research here on RC.
3) There are mass quantities of threads here that depict builds in the same range that you are putting together. If on the RC main entrance page, you clicked on Forums>Large tanks, you can scroll down and see a number of threads that should be of interest.
4) You say you are going with a small sand bed. How many pounds live rock where you looking at?

HTH

David

pyro383 · #15 05/24/2006, 11:51 AM

To help you out.

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...5&pagenumber=1

Hendersonracing · #16 06/12/2006, 08:31 AM

Hendersonracing · #17 06/12/2006, 08:32 AM

also I have been reading about BioBalls Im planning a reef tank Alot of people say to take them out and replace them with live rock before you start????just would like to keep the nitrates down from the start???thanks

dkh0331 · #18 06/12/2006, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dkh0331
Since you are going to make this a reef tank, I would:

1) Dump the bio balls in the sump.

HTH

David

Hendersonracing · #19 06/12/2006, 09:12 AM

the bioballs are in the sump alreay , are you saying just lay them in a different department?

Hendersonracing · #20 06/12/2006, 09:13 AM

also will this help or hurt with the alge

dkh0331 · #21 06/12/2006, 09:37 AM

Sorry, dump as in remove entirely from the system. With LR, there is no need for bioballs.

HTH

David

Hendersonracing · #22 06/12/2006, 10:11 AM

ok good thanks alot also what do you recommend for wave movement...I have 3 of these coming

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

Hendersonracing · #23 06/12/2006, 11:05 AM

should be ready to add water tomorrow

818 · #24 06/12/2006, 01:18 PM

you wont be moving anywater with those little tiny powerheads....What kind of skimmer is that a CSS65?Your going to need a way biiger skimmer. Im suprised no one has helped you out...youll just be spending money and get no where.

For a 210 youll need some big Seio's or Tunze pumps for some water movement.

And for skimmers many companies rate their skimmer to do 220g but really arent reccomended for a tank bigger that 100g.

You will need to toss the bio balls if you want a reef, and build your self a refugium somewhere in there.

Those pumps you got off ebay are barely good enough to mix some salt.

In ur filter compartment 3 toss some live rock in there....In compartment 4 throw some live sand and some Chaetomorpha too eat up all the excess nutrients.

Its best you do a little more research before you set up such a large set-up. Youll be spending so much money and youll end up leaving the hobby like many have done.

This is one of the most rewarding hobbies there is. But with patience, and alot of research on equipment, and care for these animals is what will keep you doing this for years to come.

Please keep us updated.

Sam

edwar050 · #25 06/12/2006, 06:26 PM

I am with the guys above, I wouldn't want that skimmer on my 120. But to tell you the truth, it would probably work great as a 2nd skimmer. I would look for at least an asm G3 "240$" online if not a G4 "340$ NEW" or equivalent in deltec, euroreef, or aqua c ev. Skimmer, Water movement, the tank itself, and lighting are the four primary things I would not skip on. You can go a little cheap but not with a tank that size and do it correctly unless you DIY. 2 Seio 1500's would not even be enough for water movement in a 210. I would seriously consider looking into tunze products like the wave box. You could do this before adding the moulding to the top of the tank that way when the water moves you dont see any gaps. Granted your looking at 500$ for one. If you trying to go cheap I would go with 3 seio 2600's which would give you roughly a 30x turnover rate. The three 2600's though will run you about 210. Most people dont buy equipment from the LFS because of the markup on price vs. what they get it online for. The LFS's are used by many hobbiest to buy things that are needed fast like carbon, chemicals, etc. I love supporting the LFS by buying all my livestock from different reputable LFS's, but I know I would have tripled the price on my system had I bought all my equipment from them, it would not have been as good as it is now, and for me that is not finacially feasible. You dont need a refugium but anything you can do to keep phosphate very low in your system will help. I would go with biological filtration and mechanical, ex. good live rock, good skimmer, filter pads/floss/socks, refugium, 2 skimmers including the smaller one you got, and consider something like a phosban reactor for future algae preventage. From what it looks like you added a rubbermaid for an extra fuge which should help out alot in hiding equipment. I would also consider a calcium reactor for a tank that size depending on what you are going to keep. Good luck with your setup, hope it works out well.

Brad