Ive already tried the shampoos....no go for my goal, mass resale. I dremeled slots along the sides and back. Came out with nice mountings withing the week, went into the dremel shop. After 5 hours of rotary glee, a few dozen phone calls, and a bit of time.....all units are sold. Any who, the work great for functional displays. There is NOThING with a slimmer profile thet is functional and not from scratch. I do favor breeder nets but for the price and legal purposes these seem to riegn right now. ......