[luke33]

Na man, wasn't trying to be offensive either...you were just callin out my rogue warrior ; ) But like i've said many a times, the rogue, mce600, turbo seem to be the only hot's out there that can take over a 55g tank. Although it seems there will be two more out there soon that can do the same. The ATB and the hot recirc octo. Time will tell with those two and at this point only the rogue and mce600 have been tested. I'm not going to buy a atb or a octo recirc as i have no need for either. I will be getting an octo to test here soon and i'll post my thoughts. I'll be looking forward to seeing what an atb will do as well. I know its 400lph at 10 watts which is awesome and it should work well for 55g tanks and under. It will come with a heafty 500 dollar price tag though. I mean really, who wants to spend that kind of cash on a hot. If you spend more than 250-300bux, just get a sump and a insump skimmer imo.