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Originally posted by Kalkbreath
and with respect to the word "Domesticated"
like in domesticated dogs and cats. I feel the reason dogs and cats dont act like their "wild" counterparts while under our care, has more to do with our human involvement and influence in the pets psychological mental processes. ( bad dog good dog, sit etc.)
Proof that its less about genetics and more about the effects of Domestic life can be found when domesticated dogs and cats live feral existences out in the wild. The "wild" seems to usually overcome all our attempts to genetically tame Kitty.
Clams are in a unique position being that they are part animal and plant.
Its most likely that the zooxanthellae are what distinguishes cultured clams from their wild counterparts more so then the mollusks them self.
So maybe zooxanthellae Symbiodinium domestica would be the prober term for domesticated clams?
The term Domestica is used on countless botanical plant names
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WOW! Where to begin!? Without sounding too holier than thou, I dont think you have a good understanding of domestication, or some animal behavior if this is what you truly feel. Do you really feel your cats and dogs in your house dont show any of their wild ancestry? Put a mouse, spider, lizard, etc. in fron t of your cat and see what happens. Why? We dont feed our cats these items. Because it is part of their genetic "programming" to be predators and hunt such smaller items. Then why do they "tame"? Because they are social animals, and we have socialized them to us. The feral animals you speak of do not appear like our tabbys in our homes because they are not socialized to us. But it can, and has been done.
Again, what you are speaking of here is acclimitization to stimulus and conditions. For example, take nonsocial pets -ie reptiles, insects, CLAMS- why do they tolerate handling- not domestication, but acclimitization and tolerance. However, put a stressor on these animals, and you WILL see the wild side again.
Do you really feel that farm raised clams should be a new species with a new name? That is absurd. These clams are doind absolutely nothing different than the clams in the wild, we are just minpulating the environment they are raised in. Once they start showing more significant signs of adaptation, such as tolerance to different salinity, temperatures, lighting regimes, etc- then I'll get on board with your domestication talk. But until that poitn, which will likely be well beyond our lifetimes, they are wild animals- true to their species.