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anydarnthing 01/02/2008 10:19 PM

Liveaquaria Pintail Wrasse
 
I was wondering who bought it I didn't even get to see it on the site.

Charlie's Angel 01/02/2008 11:32 PM

I saw it and five minutes later it was gone. Sweet looking fish.

Vili_Shark 01/03/2008 12:21 AM

U have the latin name?

achillesheel 01/03/2008 12:24 AM

Cirrhilabrus cf. lanceolatus

Fairy Wrassler 01/03/2008 01:19 AM

Does anyone know if this was a lanceolatus or a roseafascia? (given that I can't see a pic of it)?

FW

LukFox 01/03/2008 02:52 AM

It's still the advertised fish picture on the main DD page, so you can see the picture there Fairy Wrassler.

Did anyone save the picture? I only had a chance to see the main page picture :(. I'm not surprised at all it went so fast.

Fairy Wrassler 01/03/2008 03:34 AM

That main page picture is not a rosefascia, but nor is it like any lanceolatus picture I have seen. Which is not to say much, because few lanceolatus pictures exist. Does anyone know where they say it came from?

FW

H.Tanaka 01/03/2008 07:28 AM

It is one of undescribed species of Cirrhilabrus. It is known from southern Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines, and it almost enters the aquarium trade from Cebu. Not known from Indonesian waters but it may exist in northern part around Sangihe Islands or Manado, Sulawesi.

Males have a reddish line on side that curves just above pectoral-fin base; it is not seen in lanceolatus or roseafascia. The species gows to 12cm at maximum as far as I know. It loves deeper waters and usually commands a high price in market.

It is very similar in appearance to lunatus from northwestern Pacific but the latter has a deeply lunate caudal fin; they mix well in nature and reproduce hybrid cross on rare occasion.

The species will be named by a Japanese ichthyologist and his colleague, perhaps this year.

The fish on page 40 (in Rudie Kuiter's wrasse book, 2002) illustrates roseafascia in Palau (bottom photo; I). He is now revising the book for the new edition.

LargeAngels 01/03/2008 08:52 AM

Thanks for clearing that up Tanaka. There is still a lot of confusion over the lanceolatus and rosefacia. Even a MAJOR LA wholesaler mislabels rosefacia as lanceolatus, even though the placement of the dot on the pelvic fin clearly shows it as a rosefacia.

I hope that Rudie Kuiter can get some pictures that shows the pelvic fins of the lancealoatus, as only one his pictures shows it and that is of a full male.

Fairy Wrassler 01/03/2008 09:04 AM

I have been ordering a "longtail wrasse" from a major LA wholesaler just to find out what it is - they call it a lanceolatus and it is out of Cebu. No luck in getting one thus far....

LargeAngels 01/03/2008 09:06 AM

If it is the same wholesaler mine came from then it is C. rosefacia and NOT lanceolatus.

achillesheel 01/03/2008 09:07 AM

as far as i can tell there have only been a few C. cf lancelatus imported into the states. the three to LA and at least one to los angeles wholesalers that made it into lfs

Fairy Wrassler 01/03/2008 09:28 AM

I suspected that they were roseafascia. I have been getting roseafascia from Vanuatu. I will always be looking for rare and beautiful fairies :-)

Rickyrooz1 01/03/2008 10:24 AM

I think this may be it. LA called it a Super Rare Long-tailed Wrasse $499.99.
[IMG]http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/YellowBellyTang/SuperRareLong-tailedwrasse49999.jpg[/IMG]

Vili_Shark 01/03/2008 12:21 PM

the super rare is not so super rare as it already hit the same wholeseller few times this year.

achillesheel 01/03/2008 02:01 PM

how many have you seen?

heuerfan 01/03/2008 03:24 PM

I was very tempted to buy it from liveaquaria last night when i saw it, but could not bring myself to pull the trigger.

I've seen one this past summer at a lfs about an hour away from me, haven't been there since so not sure if its still there but it was about 4" and looked gorgeous.

Congrats on your purchase achilles and please post pics!

anydarnthing 01/03/2008 03:35 PM

Tell me if I'm wrong but didn't the fish that was on there before this one go for under $300? Man inflation sucks...

achillesheel 01/03/2008 04:46 PM

Iv been looking 4 this fish 4 over a year since my last one went surfing so price wasn't that bad.
A gift 4 myself as it will arrive on my bday.I missed the last one I saw but the one I had I got 4 around 250 if I remember correctlly.he will be the only fairy in my tank (unless I get greedy and get a rhomboid).

SDguy 01/03/2008 10:26 PM

Well at least it's gorgeous! I've seen some pretty fugly "rare", expensive fairies for sale before :rolleyes:

Vili_Shark 01/04/2008 02:14 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11516485#post11516485 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy [/i]
[B]Well at least it's gorgeous! I've seen some pretty fugly "rare", expensive fairies for sale before :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]

I agree.

anydarnthing 01/04/2008 10:25 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11516485#post11516485 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy [/i]
[B]Well at least it's gorgeous! I've seen some pretty fugly "rare", expensive fairies for sale before :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]

The President of our marine society bought those Majorie's Wrasses awhile ago and they seem pretty plain, no way I would pay that much for one of the plainest looking fairy wrasse I have ever seen but I guess it's just to say you have them.

achillesheel 01/04/2008 10:37 AM

i agree. the only wrasses id pay a premium for are the pin tail, rhomboid, linneatus, earl's and maybe the lunatus though i haven't seen too many photos. the roseafascia, flame, and a few others are beautiful but more common.

the marjories and girdled wrasses along with a few others just dont do it for me even though they demand that high price.

achillesheel 01/04/2008 02:15 PM

just picked him up and wow. im temp acclimating now and ill snap a few pictures. ill post them tonight if i have time, bday plans and all.

zemuron114 01/04/2008 02:50 PM

i think a supermale flame wrasse blows away any fairy wrasse you can buy. You just can't beat the metalic red over the yellow... :)

aren't lanceolatus and roseafascia very aggressive?


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