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xenon 02/06/2007 11:49 PM

Progress pics of my 90g AGA bare bottom
 
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/aga90.jpg[/IMG]

Coralife Auqualight Pro

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/coralife.jpg[/IMG]

SpectraPure MaxCap RO/DI 90GPD

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/maxcap.jpg[/IMG]

I marked where I wanted to drill the two 2.5" holes for 1.5" buklheads. They will be used for the intake a closed loop. I decided to run a Sequence Barracuda (4300gph) thru a Oceans Motions 4way. I am still thinking about those OM revolutions.

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/holes.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/holesdone.jpg[/IMG]

This will be a bare bottom SPS tank so I got 3/4" HDPE starboard (cutting board). I also installed vinyl for my bg. The navy blue was a little see-thru so I added a 2nd layer of black on the back.

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/starboard.jpg[/IMG]

This is my 40g breeder with 3/8" baffles for bubble trap.

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/newsump3.jpg[/IMG]

I converted the AGA overflow kit bulkhead from soft to hard plumbing.

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/progress1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/progress2.jpg[/IMG]

xenon 02/06/2007 11:50 PM

I added 100lb of cooked Haitian LR today. I have been cooking it for 4weeks and the last water change was clear. :)

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/cooked1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/cooked2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/cooked3.jpg[/IMG]

zma21 02/07/2007 12:21 AM

Very nice!

Jerry W 02/07/2007 12:39 AM

Looks great! I'll be following along.
Where did you purchase the starboard?

xenon 02/07/2007 12:42 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9178783#post9178783 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jerry W [/i]
[B]Looks great! I'll be following along.
Where did you purchase the starboard? [/B][/QUOTE]

I got mine from a local plastic shop. It's a very comon material so its easy to find.

xenon 02/07/2007 01:13 PM

I should have more pic updates in a few days. :)

ricwilli 02/07/2007 06:12 PM

xenon, what made you decide to drill holes only on one side of the tank? The reason why I ask, is because I am having a hard time deciding where I should drill holes on my 72 gal bow front. Is there really an ideal place to drill holes? Will you have some fish in your tank? If you do won't they get sucked up by the pump?

chem-e 02/07/2007 06:32 PM

Nice tank. I like the clean look of the piping and the aquascaping looks good as well.

Did you have the plastics company cut the starboard for you too or did you do that yourself?

mg426 02/07/2007 06:33 PM

Nice work !!

Randy1 02/07/2007 06:40 PM

I can see you've done this before, looks great. Will coraline algea grow on your star board? How will you keep it clean?

dippin61 02/07/2007 06:43 PM

whats gonna be your total gph through the tank.. cuz from experience you need tons and tons of flow. I have 3100 gph through my 55g, and still think im on the very low end. id like to be around 6000 gph.

MR PALM BEACH 02/07/2007 07:27 PM

I like the computer desk, pretty clean looking. O ya, looking sweet on the 90.

kweidner1 02/07/2007 08:01 PM

cool new toys! welcome to the hobby.....uuuuh addiction!

xenon 02/07/2007 09:16 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9183956#post9183956 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ricwilli [/i]
[B]xenon, what made you decide to drill holes only on one side of the tank? The reason why I ask, is because I am having a hard time deciding where I should drill holes on my 72 gal bow front. Is there really an ideal place to drill holes? Will you have some fish in your tank? If you do won't they get sucked up by the pump? [/B][/QUOTE]

The placement was decided because of the way the tank fits into my office closet. I have strainers in place to keep from sucking anything into the CL pump.

xenon 02/07/2007 09:18 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9184127#post9184127 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chem-e [/i]
[B]Nice tank. I like the clean look of the piping and the aquascaping looks good as well.

Did you have the plastics company cut the starboard for you too or did you do that yourself? [/B][/QUOTE]

They cut it to size and I routered a round edge on the bottom to compensate for the silicone on the bottom of the tank.

xenon 02/07/2007 09:19 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9184194#post9184194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Randy1 [/i]
[B]I can see you've done this before, looks great. Will coraline algea grow on your star board? How will you keep it clean? [/B][/QUOTE]

This is my 1st SW fish tank. I had a 60g before but I broke it all down and sold it off before it was even cycled so that I could start over from what I learned.

xenon 02/07/2007 09:22 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9184218#post9184218 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dippin61 [/i]
[B]whats gonna be your total gph through the tank.. cuz from experience you need tons and tons of flow. I have 3100 gph through my 55g, and still think im on the very low end. id like to be around 6000 gph. [/B][/QUOTE]

With head loss im at 4500gph so thats 50x turnover.

dippin61 02/08/2007 04:53 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9185529#post9185529 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xenon [/i]
[B]With head loss im at 4500gph so thats 50x turnover. [/B][/QUOTE]

you might want to start thinking now, about how to up your gph. Because your still going to have some dead spots. And the number 1 thing about going BB is to keep the detritus suspended so it can get down to your skimmer.

One of the best ways, it to make sure you have plenty of flow shooting at the bottom. Otherwise, stuff will start to settle, and you will find yourself siphoning more then youd like.

xenon 02/09/2007 04:34 PM

[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/skimmer.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/new1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/new2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.dansouliere.com/pictures/new3.jpg[/IMG]

Criminal#58369 02/10/2007 10:17 AM

Wow, that looks very professional! I find it nice the way you display everything for us to see :D (Like the way you display the SALIFERT kits :D)

EWC88 02/10/2007 10:33 AM

I am liking that so much!! Keep us updated as much as possible!!! Also when ever you put that pump on, how loud is it?

Brewen 02/10/2007 10:44 AM

Very clean set up, cannot wait to see it fully stocked and running.

crumbletop 02/10/2007 11:23 AM

Looks nice. Some thoughts/suggestions:

1) You might consider reversing where you have your return pump and your drain/skimmer. I'd run the return pump so it is as straight up as possible (minimal bends). You've got 3 90's which really restricts the flow.
2) That looks like a mag return pump -- can't really tell from the pic. They don't run well with 3/4" plumbing. I'd plumb it bigger right up to the bulkhead. That will help it run better.
3) I'd run bigger pipe also on the drain. 1 1/4" at least and maybe 1 1/2" and run it across to the left. If you get flexible PVC for it, you can slope it instead of sharp bends. This + the increased diameter will reduce turbulance, splashing, and microbubbles.
4) I'd consider painting the wood on the inside of the stand. Salt spray will get on things -- especially where the drain empties into the sump. Another consideration would be to get some thin plexiglass panels and wedge them inbetween the edge of the sump and the stand. That way things are easy to keep clean and dry.
5) Since it's barebottom, don't you want to have a recirc skimmer and feed the drain directly to the skimmer?
6) What are you going to do about heat? That return pump will add a bunch, the sequence will add some, and so will the lights and the skimmer pump. You may want to look at a lower watt return pump like the ocean runner, as well as a way to vent the closet. You may even need a chiller to keep the temp down.
7) It looks like it could get mighty damp in there which could cause mold problems, so a way to vent the closet would be good for that as well.

You may have already considered all of the above, so I'm really just throwing these out there as things to think about...

crumbletop 02/10/2007 11:27 AM

Oh, and one other thing. The bottom of the stand doesn't give enough space/room to mess with the return/drain bulkheads. I'd drain the tank and cut those holes in the wood a little bigger so you can easily access them. The last thing you want is to have a leak start from a crack or something else, and then have to drain your entire tank just to get to the bulkhead nut, etc. Since you are just setting this up, I'd address that now to avoid headache in the future.

xenon 02/10/2007 01:08 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9206355#post9206355 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crumbletop [/i]
Looks nice. Some thoughts/suggestions:

1) You might consider reversing where you have your return pump and your drain/skimmer. I'd run the return pump so it is as straight up as possible (minimal bends). You've got 3 90's which really restricts the flow.

[B]I am running a Mag 9.5 (950gph) The overflow can only handle 600gph so its actually a match made in heaven due to head loss from the elbows. :)[/B]

2) That looks like a mag return pump -- can't really tell from the pic. They don't run well with 3/4" plumbing. I'd plumb it bigger right up to the bulkhead. That will help it run better.

[B]Like I said above.. any more flow and I would have to throttle it back.[/B]

3) I'd run bigger pipe also on the drain. 1 1/4" at least and maybe 1 1/2" and run it across to the left. If you get flexible PVC for it, you can slope it instead of sharp bends. This + the increased diameter will reduce turbulance, splashing, and microbubbles.

[B]The drain is currently a 1 1/4"[/B]

4) I'd consider painting the wood on the inside of the stand. Salt spray will get on things -- especially where the drain empties into the sump. Another consideration would be to get some thin plexiglass panels and wedge them inbetween the edge of the sump and the stand. That way things are easy to keep clean and dry.

[B]Interesting idea but so far so good becasuse my filter sock really cuts down on salt creep[/B]

5) Since it's barebottom, don't you want to have a recirc skimmer and feed the drain directly to the skimmer?

[B]I couldint justify the RC Series skimmers so I will probably end up modding this one.[/B]

6) What are you going to do about heat? That return pump will add a bunch, the sequence will add some, and so will the lights and the skimmer pump. You may want to look at a lower watt return pump like the ocean runner, as well as a way to vent the closet. You may even need a chiller to keep the temp down.

[B]Right now I am bang on at 80.. and my heater kicks in at night.[/B]

7) It looks like it could get mighty damp in there which could cause mold problems, so a way to vent the closet would be good for that as well.

[B]I have only had it running for a few days so far so I am not usre how that will play out. I live in a bungalow so I could install one VERY easy.[/B]

You may have already considered all of the above, so I'm really just throwing these out there as things to think about... [/B][/QUOTE]


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