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oz 01/10/2008 09:16 AM

Grammar police, need your help. when to use i.e. when to use e.g. ?
 
I am writing a memo and can not remember the proper usage of "e.g." and "i.e.".

Please advise.

Thanks.

PS. what does e.g. and i.e. short for ?

oz 01/10/2008 09:17 AM

One more. What is PS ?

BigSkyBart 01/10/2008 09:20 AM

eieio

Satori 01/10/2008 09:25 AM

I know it's not what it stands for, but the rule I've always used is "[b]I[/b]n [b]E[/b]xplanation" and "[b]E[/b]xample [b]G[/b]iven"

Wolverine 01/10/2008 09:25 AM

Re: Grammar police, need your help. when to use i.e. when to use e.g. ?
 
[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11565420#post11565420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by oz [/i]
[B]I am writing a memo and can not remember the proper usage of "e.g." and "i.e.".

Please advise.

Thanks.

PS. what does e.g. and i.e. short for ? [/B][/QUOTE]

i.e. = id est, which translates to "that is", basically use it in similar context to where you would say "in other words"

e.g. = exempli gratia, and is "for example"

p.s. is post script; essentially, it's for adding in something that wasn't in, or didn't belong in, the body of what you're writing.

Dave

Kevomac 01/10/2008 09:57 AM

Darn you, Wolverine...you stole my opportunity to show off my college Latin! Anyone want to know what AM and PM stand for?

dkh0331 01/10/2008 09:59 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11565623#post11565623 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kevomac [/i]
[B]Darn you, Wolverine...you stole my opportunity to show off my college Latin! Anyone want to know what AM and PM stand for? [/B][/QUOTE]

Sure - go for it!

BrianD 01/10/2008 10:32 AM

Google is your friend, Oz.

Putawaywet 01/10/2008 12:48 PM

Funny thing Brian, I keep being told that too. But I really can't say that I'm feeling a real bond with this Google person.

Google never calls or writes.
Google has never joined me when I'm out with my other friends having a drink.
Goggle never came over to help me move.
Google doesn't send me Christmas cards.

And Google certainly has never fetched me a sammich and a beer from the fridge.

So who is this Google person and why won't they be my friend?

Brett

wizardgus® 01/10/2008 01:30 PM

According to the dictionary, “i.e.” means “that is to say” while “e.g.” means “for example”. So the difference would be as such:

“There are many ways to lose a race (i.e. there are a lot of obstacles to winning).”
“There are many ways to lose a race (e.g. disqualification, injury, sickness).”

The abbreviations i.e. and e.g. are not interchangeable – i.e. (id est) means “that is” or “in other words” and e.g. (exempli gratia) means “for example.” Both i.e. and e.g. must have commas after them as well as before them, unless they’re preceded by a dash or a parenthesis.

Vladimir likes pasta (e.g., cresti di gallo, orecchiette, vermicelli).
Estragon likes pasta (i.e., thin pieces of hardened, unleavened dough that are molded into various shapes).

Kevomac 01/10/2008 04:01 PM

AM is Latin for Ante Meridies. Literally, before noon. PM is Post Meridies. After noon. Thanks, David!

Now who wants to know what AD stands for? Or etc.? Or ad hoc? Anyone? Anyone?

Kinetic 01/10/2008 06:04 PM

what's ad hoc stand for?

crp 01/10/2008 06:12 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11568146#post11568146 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kevomac [/i]
[B]AM is Latin for Ante Meridies. Literally, before noon. PM is Post Meridies. After noon. Thanks, David!

Now who wants to know what AD stands for? [/B][/QUOTE]

After Debi.

Random Aquarist 01/10/2008 10:41 PM

AD = annô Dominî = in the year of our lord
BC = before Christ

jpfelix 01/10/2008 10:50 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11569188#post11569188 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crp [/i]
[B]After Debi. [/B][/QUOTE]

is nina the only thing that would be BD (before debi)?

Muttling 01/10/2008 11:24 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11571570#post11571570 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Random Aquarist [/i]
[B]AD = annô Dominî = in the year of our lord
BC = before Christ [/B][/QUOTE]


I was always taught that AD was "after death", meaning the death of Christ.


Of course, the end result is the same.

Lotus99 01/11/2008 12:53 AM

I guess you meant to call the Latin police, not the grammar police :D

Q.E.D.

Wolverine 01/11/2008 08:30 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11571977#post11571977 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Muttling [/i]
[B]I was always taught that AD was "after death", meaning the death of Christ.


Of course, the end result is the same. [/B][/QUOTE]

That's a common misconception; in fact, in the US, it's what most people think AD stands for. The thing is, they're not equivalent. The big problem is this: What would you call the years while Christ was living, and how would you number those?

Dave

BigSkyBart 01/11/2008 08:38 AM

did he see his shadow after 3 days in the cave and wake up with a craving for chocolate bunnies?

Kevomac 01/11/2008 10:27 AM

Ad hoc means "to this". In other words, created especially for this purpose.

Thanks, Kinetic!

Nina51 01/11/2008 11:02 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11571670#post11571670 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jpfelix [/i]
[B]is nina the only thing that would be BD (before debi)? [/B][/QUOTE]

yer gonna git it and when you do, you aren't gonna like it.

what does nunc pro tunc mean?

dkh0331 01/11/2008 11:07 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11574379#post11574379 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Nina51 [/i]
[B]

what does nun pro tunc mean? [/B][/QUOTE]



She gets paid for doing this?

[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/dkh0331/nundance.gif[/IMG]

Kevomac 01/11/2008 11:10 AM

nunc pro I believe would be "never for", but let me check. You stumped me with that one.

Kevomac 01/11/2008 11:13 AM

Ok, you got me on that one. It means "now for then". I suspect in your field it would mean allowing someone extra time before they have to do something.

Kevomac 01/11/2008 11:14 AM

How about ad valorem? Semper fi(delis)? Stat (as in a command given in a hospital)? Cum laude, magna cum laude, summa cum laude?


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