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A.T.T.R 01/29/2007 11:03 PM

building of a frag 'room'
 
ok
this is my first attempt at medium scale fragging
in the next few weeks ill post pictures of the setup

right now i am waiting for two 72 inch by 36 inch tubs


these systems will be used for sps and soft coral
also i plan on having a small food station set up( phyto. rotifers and copepods.) mostly for in house use but possiably any excess will go to an lfs

picts will include before and after photos of the room

the time frame for this is
1 week tanks in place
week 2 plumbing in place
week 3 lighting orded and inplace also ro and saltwater vats inplace

week 4 start mother colony frags in display tank

hopfuly have coral in soft coral system by week 7

lets see how this works out

so far money put in to this $421


i still havent decided between raceways or not....

drummereef 01/30/2007 12:21 AM

Sounds sweet! Can't wait for pics.

jer77 01/30/2007 02:30 AM

Sounds like your still trying to figure out your plumbing for sure. I can't wait for pics either.

A.T.T.R 01/30/2007 02:34 AM

im ddebating using raceways inside the vats. and i can alternate the current. more velocity from the same size pump meaning less heat build up
also being in florida i plan on running lights at night to reduce heat

A.T.T.R 01/30/2007 10:55 PM

they are out of the tubs i wanted. they say they get them in by the end of NEXT week...
i may just go with the smaller tub. it is about the same usable area since one is a moter style and the other isnt ( one has a curved boottom on one edge

mvite 01/30/2007 11:05 PM

It sounds like you have a great plan---you should stick to it. I hate when "in-stock" or not influences my decisions. I can't take my own advice---but again--you look like you have a good plan.

A.T.T.R 01/30/2007 11:17 PM

well the deeper tubs give me more room for coral growth without having to fill the container to the top.

the size is 52 instead of 72 ( or some small number..)

this was actualy my original plan. but the few extra inches changed my mind when i orded..
i have room for like 8 or so of these tanks. so first 2 it dosnt really matter the size

jer77 01/31/2007 12:20 AM

Where are you ordering these from so I can get a picture of what they look like, so maybe I can help you decide if they have a webpage. Will you still be able to do the raceways with the smaller tubs? Cause I think thats a pretty cool idea, which I have wished I could sometime do.

A.T.T.R 01/31/2007 08:00 PM

i changed the order nce again cause htey are now out of the smaller ones

i switcdh to fiberglass. ( which is tougher and will actualy be bettwer in the long run)
i actualy saw one of the polyethelin tangs today and it seems so weak... glad this happend otherwise i wouldent of had te chance to change my mind!
they make figerblass all the way up to 96 by 36 ( but 24 deep)
im getting a 60 by 30 ( decent size)
and will still do the race ways.

aquatic eco is who im getting these from

A.T.T.R 01/31/2007 11:16 PM

the baffles will have two alternating pumps.
that way i can get some alternating motion
with the raceways 6 inches wide im hopping i can run it off of a maxi jet or seio ( remember this will be start stop)
i am going to try airlifts first tho and use two air pumps.. one on one off

jer77 01/31/2007 11:19 PM

How do airlifts work? I have never used them.

jer77 01/31/2007 11:31 PM

How many gallons per tank are we talking about here. You say they're 60x30x24, am I right? That would make them 187 gal? Are they the blue fiberglass tanks?

A.T.T.R 02/01/2007 10:04 AM

fiberglass is uv resistant right?

Stoney Mahony 02/01/2007 11:02 AM

Fiberglass works well and has a very long life. Are you building stands for the tanks or are you going to be setting them on the ground? What kind of lighting do you plan on using?

A.T.T.R 02/01/2007 11:10 AM

ok. already 975 bucks in the hole from these two tanks alone :(

airlifts work like an Undergravel uplift tube.. except with even more air ( im thinking of using 70 liters a minute for 3 airlifts )
here are some picts of where they are going!
:) got my work cut out for me ^^

A.T.T.R 02/01/2007 11:23 AM

ok. already 975 bucks in the hole from these two tanks alone :(

airlifts work like an Undergravel uplift tube.. except with even more air ( im thinking of using 70 liters a minute for 3 airlifts )
here are some picts of where they are going!
:) got my work cut out for me ^^
[IMG]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/astreafish/DSCK0011-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/astreafish/DSCK0012-1.jpg[/IMG]

A.T.T.R 02/03/2007 09:55 PM

i found a old 4 bulb t8 fixure ( used at stores for lighting)

gonna wire my ic660 to it!

A.T.T.R 02/05/2007 04:27 PM

ok i have the tanks they are at work and ill be bringing them home shortly!

cleaning the place out right now!

A.T.T.R 02/06/2007 02:22 PM

[IMG]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/astreafish/DSCK0001.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/astreafish/DSCK0002-1.jpg[/IMG]

ok got the tanks...
still cleaning the place out

also this is why fishtanks and small cars dont mix

ReefBuddha 02/06/2007 03:14 PM

awsome. those are good tanks. aquatic eco? you can stack one on top of another and use the bottom one as a sum I suppose?

Or you couls elevate them and place rubbermade tanks below?

I'm interested in investigting how to maximize growing space and minimizing the system footprint. Would it not make sense to place the sump(s) under the tanks? I suppose equipment access should be considered though.

considering using those troughes, or building acrylic tanks, or both. still debating t5 vs. halide and want to minimize energy consumption as well.

A.T.T.R 02/06/2007 04:08 PM

well
[IMG]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/astreafish/DSCK0002-2.jpg[/IMG]

there ya go. and that is a full sheet of eggcrate for size referance


i thought about one top of another both for grow out but... light heat would be a problom

one is for sps the other is for softies
i will be using MH .. i thought about t5 but i want the high par of 5.5 k bulbs

on the softies i will be using a old over head light. with 4 vho bulbs ( see pict with car.. it is the thing in the back seat

in the latest pict you can see some wierd lines int he background.. that is polycarbonate that will be used in raceways.

A.T.T.R 02/06/2007 04:15 PM

step 1 compleated 5 days early ( well almost done.. all thats left is sealing the concreat but that dosnt take long..... infact off to homedepot i go!

ReefBuddha 02/06/2007 04:27 PM

did you find the tanks locally or ordered from aquatic eco?

A.T.T.R 02/06/2007 05:34 PM

yes aquatic eco
i wish i could find more localy
aparently there is a tank place some where in ft lauderdale. they are who i want to get my water tanks from
( two 200 gallon tanks. one ro one NSW)
btw so far


1000 for the tanks and 100 for everything else so far ( acrylic sheets. rope. cement.
hole keeps gettign deeper

jer77 02/06/2007 07:38 PM

Good stuff, keep the pics coming.


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