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doox00 01/17/2007 09:25 AM

frags4u
 
Sellers for sale thread

[url]http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8873831#post8873831[/url]

Very frustrating seller. I purchased two 2 month old cascade 1000 canisters.

Took, a week or more before item was shipped, when I did receive a package there was just 1 canister and no hoses or anything, I was told the hoses/accessories were included.

I have now been going back and forth asking about the hoses and other canister, I was told it was sent it two boxes and ups gave only 1 tracking number, this has been the story for about a week now, he said he is going to check with ups and send out the hoses, still no results on either.

LouPhoenix 01/17/2007 06:14 PM

Same here. He claims to have sent me a Remora Pro on 1/10 - Even if he sent it as a parcel, it takes no more than 4 days to deliver anywhere in the USA)... and I haven't heard anything back from him. No tracking number and rarely any feedback. I'm going to report him to Paypal and contact my Credit Card company if I don't hear back from him by tonight. He claims to work weird hours, but it reeks of B.S. imho.

smiller 01/17/2007 07:30 PM

I suggest PMing him with the link to this thread.

doox00 01/17/2007 09:37 PM

talked to him today on the phone, he said he has been iced into the house, big ice storm so was unable to check with ups. He said he has the hoses and stuff boxed up and ready to be shipped.

He said he would get me a new canister to replace the missing one or exchange it for different equipment.

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt for a couple of days, if no resolution by monday then I will be reporting to paypal.

off topic here, but I have purchased items 4 times total from members at rc, the 4th deal is still in progress, but out of the other 3 I have been screwed EVERY time. Either not getting what was advertised (dual 175 watt mh setup, which the seller refunded partial money for because the ballast was broken and not a hamilton like promised, some off brand was sent) a power compact fixture and bulbs, never received the bulbs and these canister filters.

Unfortunate so many dishonest people out there.

frags4u 01/17/2007 09:44 PM

I also talked to LG and will refund his money if you check another thread I had to wait 20 days for a item that USPS lost LG you have mail about refund o rwhat you want to do and also with canister call me tomorrow and we can decide to send hoses and new canister or refund some money to make it right also I can take pics of my driveway for anyone to see if you would like

frags4u 01/17/2007 09:47 PM

Im not out to rip anyone off by no means I just started a coral propagation business so why would I do that. LG you have my cell you can call me also and we can deiced what to do just DO NOT SHIP USPS they los tmy skimmer took 20 days to get here anothe rskimmer I ordered was shipped prirotiy an djust got here today a week later not 3 days Just let me know what you guys would like to do call me tomorrow

FragMadness 01/17/2007 10:23 PM

frags4u will take care of it I purchased a skimmer and got it and it was perfect just as stated. I have had problems before with USPS so no reason to post negative when he said he would refund or make right

doox00 01/17/2007 10:45 PM

as I said I am giving him the benefit of the doubt atm, he has been cooperative up to this point, just slow.

I left this because I feel it was the right thing to do, this was my experience so far. My package was not sent usps, it was sent ups. Was told it was two boxes, only received the one and only got one tracking number.

LouPhoenix 01/17/2007 11:02 PM

A little coincidental that this one just popped up with 6 posts and a new membership on January 2007?

FragMadness
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Registered: Jan 2007
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Posts: 6

I do hope he makes it right... I've been in a malicious fraud situation before and have no plans to be put through it again.

mbbuna 01/18/2007 12:02 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9009334#post9009334 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LouPhoenix [/i]
[B]A little coincidental that this one just popped up with 6 posts and a new membership on January 2007?

FragMadness
Registered Member

Registered: Jan 2007
Location: USA
Occupation:
Posts: 6

I do hope he makes it right... I've been in a malicious fraud situation before and have no plans to be put through it again. [/B][/QUOTE]

:lol: its funny how people do that and even the mods notice it but dont do anything about it :rolleye1:

[url]http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1021690[/url]

[url]http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9009427#post9009427[/url]

frags4u 01/18/2007 12:07 AM

Thanks for the email Lou and as I said feel free to call me and I will make it right one way or the other!!

Bergovoy 01/18/2007 04:17 AM

Paypal has two methods for initiating aclaim.

If you have that funny feeling, you should notifiy paypal immediately. The first process is simply to notify them and they will ONLY start taking copies of correspondance that is sent between the two parties. They will also MORE importantly, place a hold on the sellers account for the amount of money in volved in the transaction.

Paypal only pays from money they can recover from the account. If the seller withdraws all teh money, and Paypal decided is YOUR favor, if there is no money in the account can not nor will not pay you.

Basically, it switches the burden of proof onto the seller to prove that you got what was listed in the auction.

If you do not recieve the item, then you can escalate that dispute to a claim. After you do this, Paypal will get directly involved and start conducting thier inverstigation and ask teh questions they need to ask./

Again, if you were going to get conned, then the seller has already emptied his account or transferred the money out of hisw paypal account to another acccount

Paypal does not have a minimum balance requirement, so con man will just xfer out his daily balance each day.

billsreef 01/18/2007 07:31 AM

FragMadness/frags4u,

Do you always talk to yourself as if your two different people?

NiTr0x911 01/18/2007 07:39 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9008940#post9008940 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FragMadness [/i]
[B]frags4u will take care of it I purchased a skimmer and got it and it was perfect just as stated. I have had problems before with USPS so no reason to post negative when he said he would refund or make right [/B][/QUOTE]

So you bought this skimmer from Frags4U ..your Ip address is the same...I bet shipping was cheap!:rolleyes:

frags4u 01/18/2007 08:23 AM

When things are set right like I said I would do thing I will excpect a apology this is crazy I shipped alot of stuff before no problems btu the last two things had problems?? And now Im a bad guy all I can say is I will make things right as I stated.

frags4u 01/18/2007 08:46 AM

Also I got out finally today to check on lost packages Lou and doox I will check on your stuff let me know what both of you would like to do so I can get this mess straighted out!

LouPhoenix 01/18/2007 09:37 AM

Frags,

You already know what I want you to do. If I don't have my skimmer by Saturday (and in working order like you said it is)
You will refund me the full amount. Plain and simple.

lpkirby 01/18/2007 01:54 PM

Yea it looks like the IP address are the same, You want ever get an order from me,, frags4u or who ever you are..

frags4u 01/18/2007 09:33 PM

Thats fine Lou and Doox and I got things figuired out today also. Sorry for all the mess up.

frags4u 01/18/2007 09:54 PM

LOU CHECK paypal I just refunded funds USPS is so screwed up!! I got home just now and guess what was at my door steps!!! YOUR SKIMMER AND BROKE. They lost skimmer and borke in the mean time. I WILL NEVER EVER USE USPS AGAIN. Your refunded is in paypal AGAIN TO ALL Im sorry for mix ups

LouPhoenix 01/18/2007 10:06 PM

I do see your refund pending on Paypal. I will acknowledge resolution and will close the Paypal complaint once the refund shows as completed.

For what is worth i'm sorry about the broken skimmer. Next time you sell something to someone be SURE to get a tracking number... much of this would have been avoided if you had done that in the first place!!!

frags4u 01/18/2007 11:07 PM

Live and learn never use USPS same thing almost happened to my skimmer from Jim also

doox00 02/22/2007 09:32 AM

frags4u never made things right for me as he states above a number of times, he keeps promising he will, says he sent stuff out, it never shows up.. after months of going back and forth he says he paypal'd me back half of my purchase price, which I never did got, guess that got lost in the mail also just like the other (not exagerating) 4 or 5 times throughout the past months when he said things were sent to me. avoid this guy like the plague.

He keeps saying how he is starting a coral propagation business and why would he screw people over etc, good question.. why are you screwing people over??

Naperville Reef 02/22/2007 10:31 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9013415#post9013415 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lpkirby [/i]
[B]Yea it looks like the IP address are the same, You want ever get an order from me,, frags4u or who ever you are.. [/B][/QUOTE]

how can you tell????

Jay4Robin 02/22/2007 09:34 PM

I right click on the persons screen name and click on properties.
:confused:

seems to work.


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