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JaredWaites 01/04/2008 12:01 PM

Coral Toxicity (Beginners be sure to read)
 
[SIZE=4]Coral Toxicity[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]by Jared Waites[/SIZE]

Welcome beginner coral enthusiasts!

This thread was created, because I had been thinking of the safety of others for once, instead of myself :lol:

I have a couple of pointers to point out, that might save your life or keep you from becoming ill when your playing with your reef.

You might think, how is my life endangered when I play with my tank? There are a lot of ways to die or be injured from playing with our tanks, electrocution, cut fingers instead of cutting corals, but being poisoned? Is this possible with the reef? If your asking that question in your head, your dang skippy. Because Zoanthids, contain one of the worlds most deadliest toxins called, Palytoxin. Remember, all Zoathids carry Palytoxin, some more then others.
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1. When handling Zoanthids (Zoo's, Zoanthus, Zoanthidae, Palythoa, etc.), handle them as few times as you can when fragging them, as they will shed slime in defense of you handling them and cutting at them. This slime contains the same powerful neurotoxin as I mentioned above.

2. [b]ALWAYS wear gloves, NO MATTER WHO DOESN'T WEAR THEM, you remember to ALWAYS wear them[/b] because a lot of people are injured and get sick from not wearing them. Cuts on your hand make you even more vulnerable to being exposed to the toxin. Just because you don't get sick this time, or haven't in the past...that's just because the variables haven't been right.

3. Wash your hands when your finished, even if you wore gloves.

4. Keep kids and pets away while your fragging, and never let them handle corals.

5. Sometimes small Nudibranchs (sea slugs) are on Zoanthids. Do not attempt to remove them by hand, because you'll most likely end up being exposed to the toxin. From reports across the web, they are claiming that the Nudibranchs toxins are Palytoxin, that it gets from the Zoanthids...except that its MUCH more concentrated. So refrain from mushing them on the glass to kill them, and just wear gloves, and use a pair of pliers to remove them.

6. [b]NEVER[/b] put your hands in your aquarium with open sores, chapped hands, or cuts.[/i]

7. If you have some goggles available, I suggest wearing them as well...Zoanthids have been known to 'squirt' when handled out of water for propagation.

[b]Children particularly would be at risk to this toxin, so please beware, its not just harming pets, its harming humans as well.[/b]

Although not having any Zoanthids in your tank doesn't mean you shouldn't wear gloves. Cuts from liverock and other corals can cause [b]SEVERE[/b] bacterial infections which are life threatening...and could call for possible amputation.

Not to mention bristle worms, which cause a nasty sting when handled, especially the larger ones.

Lets get back to the Zoathids and the Zoa eating Nudibranches. The quickest way to get rid of something sliding on the glass is by smashing it. Well if you happen to do this to a Zoanthid Eating Nudi, the concentrated Palytoxin contained inside will be released and could find its way into your bloodstream.

There are a few articles here on Reef Central where this has happened.

[url]http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=158663[/url]

[quote]This quote was taken from TRI, but was quoted from The Reef Aquarium 2.


The Hawaiian zoanthid,Palythoa toxica contains an especially toxic chemical [most likely palytoxin] within its gastric cavity.Bowers and Walsh reported that a student collector had to be hospitalized for several days after accidentally touching a colony to an open wond on his hand.
The early Hawaiians were aware of the toxic nature of this zoanthid as they used to dip their spear points in them to make wonds made by them fatal.[/quote]

[quote]The crude ethanol extracts of the Palythoa toxica proved to be so toxic that an accurate LD50 was difficult to determine. More recently, the toxicity has been determined to be 50-100ng/kg i.p. in mice. The compound is an intense vasoconstrictor; in dogs, it causes death within 5 min at .06ug/kg. By extrapolation, a toxic dose in a human (obviously not determined) would be about 4 micrograms!!!. It is the most toxic organic substance known.[/quote]

The quote above came from a website that is no longer available online. So according to the website above which was a chemistry website, its the most toxic organic toxin known to man.

So to summarize this article in one quick sentence, I would have to say:

[b]Wear gloves while handling liverock and any Palythoa or Zoanthids.[/b]


Now for the pictures! :D


Some bacterial infection pictures from cuts. The particular infection was caused by Mycobacterium Marinum

[img]http://www.wetwebmedia.com/DiseasePIX/NEJMSlideMmarinum.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.wetwebmedia.com/DiseasePIX/my_cobacterium_hand_wwm.jpg[/img]


Bristle worm sting, they call them Bristle worms for a reason :)

[img]http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WormPIX/PolychaeteWormPIX/bristles1.jpg[/img]

Hopefully these images will help you think twice before placing your hands in an aquarium without gloves!

DrHank 01/04/2008 02:09 PM

Thanks Jared, this a topic that most of us are familiar with but I think that it's great that it gets brought up every so often for those who may not be aware.

I got lucky and my girls got me a pair of Aqua Gloves for Christmas. I have to admit that they are a bit cumbersome but they definitely keep my arms from itching when I used to have to work with them in my tank. They will also be great next Halloween if I decide to dress up like a monster.

JaredWaites 01/04/2008 02:25 PM

haha :lol:

Yeah if someone can't find the Aqua Gloves locally....which are awesome might I add, I have a pair of them somewhere around here...you could substitute the yellow arm gloves...you know like the ones you use in the kitchen.

DrHank 01/04/2008 02:40 PM

But they wouldn't go all the way to my armpits and blue with orange hands is just too cool!

JaredWaites 01/04/2008 02:58 PM

True never thought of that. Good point.

I love my pair of aquagloves...they just right ;)

Phildirt 01/04/2008 10:56 PM

Note to self...............lick the toad not the Zoanthids.

Vinnie71975 01/05/2008 12:28 AM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11524319#post11524319 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Phildirt [/i]
[B]Note to self...............lick the toad not the Zoanthids. [/B][/QUOTE] Even Licking the Cane Toad can be Deadly, Serious allergic reactions are know to occur and there have also be people blinded buy the poison from toads!

JaredWaites 01/05/2008 11:57 AM

I don't think he was serious when posted that Vinnie.

jadeguppy 01/05/2008 01:07 PM

What about licking the public water fountain? I wonder which is worse...

JaredWaites 01/05/2008 07:12 PM

[QUOTE][i]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11527073#post11527073 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jadeguppy [/i]
[B]What about licking the public water fountain? I wonder which is worse... [/B][/QUOTE]

I would like a public water fountain and get a cold and other nasties...before having a powerful neurotoxin rushing through my veins.

DrHank 01/05/2008 08:06 PM

How about we just save the licking for lollipops!

jadeguppy 01/05/2008 10:21 PM

Well, at least Doc kept if clean for the kiddies that may read this. ;) Lollipops it is.

JaredWaites 01/06/2008 10:42 AM

hahaha

Yall crack me up.


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