Yeh, they are a lovely pair.

Marinebetta's pair that is

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mrblue [/i]
[B]The black ocellaris came from the Northern Territory in Aus. Well, I am still a little confused, so onyx percs are entirely black and white, similar to black ocellaris or are they all black except for their faces. Where exactly are they supposed to come from? I did know black ocellaris got their color over time but I thought it was supposed happen in like the first year (don't quote me, couldn't find source), my pair are much older then that. [/B][/QUOTE]

Onyx percs are supposed to be all black between the white bars, plus having a black dorsal. The other fins and face are orange. There are no black percs like the black ocellaris. The closest is my male and he's probably one in a few thousand. Onyx is kind of like a trade name of a type/variant of black perc. Don't know their origin but I believe the name was coined by ORA?

True, it is strange that your male ocellaris got black late in life....generally they get black within a yr. One thing though, is that maybe your pair is actually younger than you think - wild growth rates are often much faster than in a captive environment....

Most one here say that onyx fits any percula with a solid black band going from white head stripe to white tail stripe. They do not require black fins, but some say that to be a true onyx the clown must be black inbetween the head and tail bars including the fins.

Onyx was coined by C-Quest. As far as ocellaris darkening it is a normal occurance in my experiance. I have a female that has been adding black to here bars and along her back for years. This also occured with a few other O pairs I have had and sold or lost... I believe nutrition has a little to do with it as does age.

Cool, thanks for the info, I understand now. It's strange what you say about nutrition, Atticus, because a lot of my mature pairs have gone through rapid, growth/color change in a reasonably short time (check my GBM in my gallery), maybe it's the funky 'gumbo' I feed my fish, or the 11 other options they have to pick from.

I beleive lighting and nutrition are 2 of the biggest factors. Most of mine are black before they reach the 1 year mark. A male with a darker gene may also play a role . The clown in my avitar is a juvie that is about 10 monts old.

Cool, thanks for the input.

I like the new pic Rod!
David

Thanks David, but I cant take credit. The juvie is from my pair, but I did not take the pic. Casbarian took the picture and cut it out for me. My camera skills are not very good, while his are.

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/lesrat/tank/MVC-164F.jpg[/url][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/lesrat/tank/MVC-164F.jpg[/IMG]

why is my ocellaris fish called a "false clown"? I have never understood that...

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Key Of David [/i]
[B]why is my ocellaris fish called a "false clown"? I have never understood that... [/B][/QUOTE]

The "trade" name for them is The False Percula Clownfish. An attempt to seperate them from A. percula (aka the Percula Clownfish) as they are a different species (A. ocellaris).

A question for the more experienced clownfish breeder (Oama). This question is also in its own thread, anything answered here I will copy over.

My Allardi pair is said to be a juvenile pair. (pic bellow)
[img]http://home.ripway.com/2003-10/32128/clownsnew006.jpg[/img]
Will their markings change before they are able to spawn?
David

SDC had them in their list two weeks ago. Those are babies and I would say they are 3-5 months old. They have way to go to start spawning. I have 4 pairs of them and they are one of the nices after two banded once.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by guybirch [/i]
[B][IMG]http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Picture%20224.jpg[/IMG]

Snowflake Clownfish, oceanaquatics in the UK

[IMG]http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/clownodd.jpg[/IMG]

Squareflake Clownfish [/B][/QUOTE]

Is the Squareflake legit, or is it photoshopped? I think it is really unique, but I can find [B]no[/B] mention of it online anywhere.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DougSupreme [/i]
[B]Is the Squareflake legit, or is it photoshopped? I think it is really unique, but I can find [B]no[/B] mention of it online anywhere. [/B][/QUOTE]

It is being termed a Picasso Percula and it is legit.

ok, still no hits on google. do you have a link as to where I could purchase one (or two)

Black and Yellow Saddle Clown

[IMG]http://www.blowfishaquatics.com/PICT0224.jpg[/IMG]

Bryan

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bryan Thompson [/i]
[B]Black and Yellow Saddle Clown

[IMG]http://www.blowfishaquatics.com/PICT0224.jpg[/IMG]

Bryan [/B][/QUOTE]


Does anyone have any idea what the anemone in this picture is? I can get them in but I have no clue about their husbandry needs.

Thanks,

Albert

Re: cont.
 

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dlckwood [/i]

Heres a black variant of A. ocellaris
[IMG]http://home.ripway.com/2003-10/32128/black_ocellaris_pair_small.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]

Do these pair qualify as Ocellaris Var or Perculas? They are lighter than your variants, but mine are younger....am I to expect on upon getting older, they'll lose the orange on their face and go all black as in your picture above? This was the only picture I saw that came close to the ones I have. They were labeled when I bought them as "black true perculas" Any light you can shine on this would help. Thanks.

here's my pair:

[IMG]http://xs19.xs.to/pics/05102/true_black_percs.JPG[/IMG]

Those whould be a juvi pair of ocellaris.
David

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dlckwood [/i]
[B]Those whould be a juvi pair of ocellaris.
David [/B][/QUOTE]

of the black variant right? So in fact they will turn darker(black *as in pic*) when they mature?

Yep, black ones. They should darken up but there is no garrantee they will be completely jet black.
David

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by liv4speed1 [/i]
[B]Looks great, looking at all the pictures going down I could hear myself saying, "I want that, that, that, a pair of that, that, and that".

Nice post! [/B][/QUOTE]

I was thinking exactly the same thing:)