Show me your ... Green Nepthea

[reefnewbie54321]

The first time I ever saw this coral was a few days ago ... I didnt know that Nepthea comes in such cool colors.

Heres some pictures I found in reefkeeping magazine,

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/tonyrox1/verdeSM.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/tonyrox1/Resize-Wizard-70.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/tonyrox1/untitledSM.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/tonyrox1/Right20SideSM.jpg

Anyone have some in there tank? I havnt seen it in person so I'm not sure if its just the camera making it look so green. Hopefully some one who has it will share.

[TitansFan]

I have a nice colony and I promise you it is that neon green. Its amazing. I have been trying to get a good pic of it but, i can never get the colors to give the coral justice. I will try again once I get home tonight from work.

[CamBarr]

Mine is on the left side ill post a better pic later. One of my favorite corals
Check out me neon green toadstool too.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/cambarr/pets039.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/cambarr/pets036.jpg

cb

[reefnewbie54321]

WOW! I have been making the runs to all the LFS's and no one has it in stock ... I like to see things in person before I order something but after seeing those pictures I'm definitely going to.

CamBarr- Niiice toadstool ... is that a Nepthea frag behind the big one? What lighting is it under? Also where did you purchase it?

TitanFan- Cant wait to see some pictures. Where did you purchase yours?

Thank you both for responding ... I was beginning to think no one had any.

[gflat65]

Here is mine. These are under VHO's. The true color doesn't really come out.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/gflat65/neon-nephthea02.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/gflat65/neon-nephthea03.jpg

[reefnewbie54321]

Thanks for some close up shots

[cwegescheide]

Under 20K MH's
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c16/cwegescheide/P1010081.jpg
Neon Green Sarcophyton frag:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c16/cwegescheide/P6020001.jpg
Pulsing Sinuaria colony:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c16/cwegescheide/pulsing_sinularia7_030306.jpg

Three you don't see a lot of. The first Sinularia is the Palau Sinularia

;)

[reefnewbie54321]

More great pics

All the neon toadstools I see are frags or very small ... are they slow growers?

[LeftCoast]

I have one that's almost identical to some of the first pics you posted reefnewbie. I'll be sure to take some pics when the lights are on tomorrow.

[reefnewbie54321]

Very excited to see the pictures

This coral has just made me swap out my 65k MH's to 20k's and made me rework my aquascape to include a nepthea patch island in the right side of my tank simaler to what rbakers looks like.

[xinumaster]

Hi reefnewbie54321, I got a frag of neon from Hyacinth a while back. He has monster colony that he frags and he can ship. He lives 3 doors away from my house too.

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=840603

[reefnewbie54321]

Wow, that is a monster colony. Where the colors better in person? He said the color was washed out from the camera flash.

[reefinmike]

here's mine

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j55/reefinmike/DSCN1845.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j55/reefinmike/DSCN1844.jpg

[reefnewbie54321]

Thanks for the pictures

[cyclops23]

are there any good info sites for them? ive found some but they didn't tell me a whole lot. from what ive read, they seem very similar to this:http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=649
i know they're both nephthea, but sometimes the care is different. ive found out the basics, but was hoping to learn more. any info appreciated! thanks!

[reefnewbie54321]

I'm going to take care of my "future" green nepthea the same way I would any nepthea so I would say the same rules apply even if there colors are different. I could be wrong though ... I dont have one yet.

[Chihuahua6]

reefinmike- what is the purple gorgonian looking thing in your picture?

[theop]

TitanFan, did you get the nepthia from me? If so, this is it:
http://static.flickr.com/41/87176382_9fc44e6cf5.jpg

[reefnewbie54321]

another great nepthea picture

[cyclops23]

my brand new baby

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/cyclops23/DSCN0160.jpg

[reefnewbie54321]

wow thats a nice one ... where did you get it?

[cyclops23]

tidalgardens.com. the people there are really nice. i got a nice blastomussa, too. didn't want to pay all that shipping for just one coral.

[reefnewbie54321]

Thanks ... am I not seeing something right or are they out of stock of all there Soft Corals? I cant figure out how to order one.

Also would you say that the camera is showing its "true" colors or is it maiing it looked less/more neon colored?

[cyclops23]

if they have one, itll say so right below the pic(took me a minute to figure that out). the thing that this site has over any other is that, for the most part, they show the exact frag that you will get with the price next to it. i knew what the frag i was buying looked like before i bought it. sorry, i got the only frag. the actual frag looks MUCH better than the pic showed when i ordered it, even in the pic above. the green is unbelievable, best purchase i made so far. if they get another one in, dont hesitate to buy, you wont be sorry.

[sammy33]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/513/49055capnella.jpg

Hopefully this new little frag qualifies for this thread. This is a neon green capnella (neptheidae family) and is about 2" long.

This is a symbiotic neptheid so he likes light. I have two 24w T5 (one Midday 6k and one Pure Actinic) above this tank and the growth and color seem to be good.

I have also been feeding some phyto and stirring up the detritus to keep him happy. Neptheids like food. :D

[Ti]

wow those r really nice!

[glennb]

hi guys, beautiful corals, and great photos of them. Softie IDs can be tricky so I don't pretend to know exactly what you're dealing with here, but feel obliged to point out that none of them resemble Nephthea. Might want to consult one of the resident coral ID gurus with these.

[gflat65]

I'd say most of the look like Nephthea... The last one is Capnella, but the others look like what I've always seen described as Nephthea. Doesn't mean they haven't all been wrong, but...

http://www.garf.org/1armci/dendro.html#Nephthea

[reefnewbie54321]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7624744#post7624744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by glennb
hi guys, beautiful corals, and great photos of them. Softie IDs can be tricky so I don't pretend to know exactly what you're dealing with here, but feel obliged to point out that none of them resemble Nephthea. Might want to consult one of the resident coral ID gurus with these.

Got any examples?

I saw one that I wasnt sure if it was a Nepthea but it also wasnt a close up so I cant I.D. it and another one of a neon tree that hadnt opened up yet so I couldnt I.D. it for sure but other then that I would say they are all Nepthea.

[graveyardworm]

I have to agree with glennb, Nepthea is a notoriously difficult species to keep as they are genrally not photosynthetic and require small particulate foods. They are very closely related to dendronepthea although they may have a slightly better record in captivity, but not much. More than likely what people here have is a Sinularia species. The only way to properly 100% identify is with examination of the spicules under magnification, and the correct reference literature.

[graveyardworm]

Here's mine which I believed to be green nepthea, but after following a discussion with Eric Borneman where he identified some very similar soft coral as sinularia I'm not so sure and feel that its probably sinualria. I can PM a link to the discussion, but posting it would probably be against the UA.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/graveyardworm/Neptheasp.jpg

[reefnewbie54321]

PM'ing me the discussion would be appreciated

[graveyardworm]

Reefnewbie YGPM

[cyclops23]

graveyardworm, any chance you can pm that discussion my way?

[reefnewbie54321]

cyclops23, I sent you the link incase graveyardworm didnt. I now agree aswell most of these corals are most likely sinularia but cant be i.d.'ed unless under magnification.

So I guess the thread should no read, Show me your .... Green Nepthea/Sinularia

[cyclops23]

sinularia works for me, i still love the color. that was an interesting discussion, i agree that it does look like the sinularia, but i dont have access to a microscope. thanks for the link guys!

[graveyardworm]

I would consider this coral to be one of the great successes in the hobby, and one of the hardiest corals. For me it grows very well in low light, high light, clean water, dirty water, seems to prefer low to moderate flow, and is easy to frag successfully. It seems that it grows so well that wild collection of this coral is probably no longer necessary. On top of all that its also attractive.

[cwegescheide]

I've got two sinularias. I've got the Palau Sinularia and the Bali Sinularia. The Bali grows like a weed but is not quite as bright neon green as the Palau. But honestly who really cares the taxinomy of these corals? I'm not trying to be arguementative here. I'm just saying if you like it and you can make it prosper in your captive environment then do you really care? I don't think ANYBODY really knows a lot about corals other then the most basic care for them.

[graveyardworm]

I agree, when they're happy I'm happy doesnt really matter what they're called. :)

[cyclops23]

amen brother:cool:

[glennb]

Can't say I agree with those sentiments, but each to their own.

Newbiereefer? Wasn't entirely clear what you wanted examples of, I presume you meant photos of Nephthea species. I took some last night. They're lousy photos but should be enough detail in them for you to get a clearer idea of what Nephthea look like.


NB: first picture contains a Capnella and Litophyton species

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nephtheids.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephtheas-pinks3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephtheas-pinks1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephtheas-pinks2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-pink.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephtheas-pinks-top-down.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephtheas-variety.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-golden-small.jpg

[glennb]

More

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-brown.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-golden-large2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-golden-large3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-golden-large4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-golden-large-polypsclosed.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-golden-large1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nepthea/Nephthea-golden-large-stems.jpg

[glennb]

Some other Nephtheiids not to be confused with Nephthea sp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Capnella/Capnella.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Capnella/Capnella-closedpolyps1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Capnella/Capnella2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Capnella/Capnella1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Capnella/Capnella-stems.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nephtheid2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/anyoldusername/Misc%20Aquarium%20Photos/Neptheids/Nephtheid1.jpg

[BrokkenTWolf]

... and it glows even brighter when the actinics are on.

<IMG SRC="http://www.critter.net/~brokken/dendronephtea.jpg">

[cyclops23]

awesome corals glennb! that red nephtheiid is amazing. how hard are they to take care of? I dont plan on getting one, just wondering. I had a run-in with a dendro that knocked me down a couple pegs, now i'm just going for the easy to care for:)

BrokkenTWolf, that pic should be in a calendar, man!

[gflat65]

glennb,

Are those Dendro's? If so, what are you doing to keep them alive?

Can someone send me the discussion on determining soft coral genus? I got mine from garf as a Nepthea, but research foundations can be wrong, too.

[BrokkenTWolf]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7659998#post7659998 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cyclops23
awesome corals glennb! that red nephtheiid is amazing. how hard are they to take care of? I dont plan on getting one, just wondering. I had a run-in with a dendro that knocked me down a couple pegs, now i'm just going for the easy to care for:)

BrokkenTWolf, that pic should be in a calendar, man!

You think it's THAT good. :) Well, I'm elated that you think so. Personally I think I'm a crappy photographer. This must obviously be one of those lucky shots. :)

[reefnewbie54321]

glennb, what are the last to corals you posted?

gflat65, not sure if anyone sent you the link so I did. YGPM

[glennb]

I'm not sure which genus the red and yellow neptheiids in the last two pics belong to. They might be easy enough to ID, just that I've never attempted it.

The red one was salvaged from a live rock bin, and the yellow one was an incidental attached to the rock of another coral I purchased.

I've seen brown, orange, and purple variations of the yellow one that were identical in all but colour, so it's possible there's wide colour variation in this species.

These two coral receive no special treatment. There hasn't been any noticable growth in the six or so months they've been with me. They're positioned them under a ledge near the front pane of glass, and receive reflected light from the glass and a solid linear water flow that cascades down the front pane and along the sandbed.

Both of these elicit a strong feeding response when diatoms are scraped from the tank's sides, which is about the only useful food they'd ever recieve other than detritus and whatever becomes liberated from the sandbed.

The system is fishless, skimmerless, and lucky to be fed once a week.

The red one's very tolerant of touching other coral and discosoma sp corallimorphs; it remains opened when rubbing up against all those I've positioned beside it.

That's about all the observations I can share in relation to these two coral.

On a different note, has anyone else noticed that with Nephthea species the longer the lights are on, the better they look? The ones I have take about 10 hours to expand to about 90% of their potential, and a full 13 hours to reach maximum. They're the slowest of any coral I've kept to rouse in the morning, they react quickly to the lights coming on, but take hours to look remotely 'awake'.

[Nammy]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/14952DSC00019__Small_.JPG

[Nammy]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/14952Nepthia-palau_2.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

Heres mine,

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/SoftCoral.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_0331.jpg

[reefnewbie54321]

Nammy/Jeremy Blaze those are nice ... cool top down shot

This thread needed a bump anyways

[^CelticReefer^]

About 18 months ago it was a 2inch frag. I recently sold the colony but kept a few frags for myself.

http://www.briansonlineaquarium.com/files/5_14_06_Nepthia.jpg

Brian

[Mrs.kbmdale]

Could someone please pm me the link????? Thankyou. :)


BTW, all of these corals.... regardless of their name ;) are just beautiful, congrats to all on the success of keeping them and the pics are good too i quess :lol:

Good Luck and Happy Reefing,
Brianna:rollface:

[waterfaller1]

Can you tell me if this is one?

http://www.reefbucket.com//files/7/Picture%20325.jpg

[Nammy]

Yes it is. I have a ton in one of my tanks.

[TitansFan]

I posted a pic of mine in another thread but thought would be cool to have pic here as well. This thing makes all my other corals colors look to be washed out.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/TitanFan76/Sinularia.jpg

[reefnewbie54321]

I lost the link but it was a discussion with Eric Borneman talking about how almost all the Green "Neptheas" in the hobby are not Neptheas but instead Sinularia. It is very hard to tell the difference unless you have a microscope.

Doesnt really matter ... still one of the coolest soft corals.

[wastememphis]

Heres mine.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a328/wastememphis/Nepthia1-7.jpg

[Nammy]

wastememphis
Nice one.

[cyclops23]

Am i doing something wrong? I've had mine for over a month now, and it hasn't grown at all. I've been having a cyano problem, that i'm starting to get under control, so i don't feed much. could that be it? it's still really bright, but not any bigger.

[rhdoug]

I got this one from someone breaking down a tank earlier this year. It was a larger colony but I had to frag it due to the poor condition of the rock it was on. The polyps move more than any other coral I have seen except xenia. Any thoughts as to what it is?

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/502/20209green_leather_7-24-06_cropped.jpg

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/502/20209green_leather_7-26-06_retracted.jpg

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/502/20209green_leather_7-26-06_closeup01_small.jpg

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/502/20209green_leather_7-26-06_closeup02.jpg

[cyclops23]

Alright, I think the water movement was too strong. I moved it clear to the other end of my tank, in the low flow area. Hopefully that helps, i really like this coral.

[chrisdaphish]

how much do green nepthea frags ususally cost? viewing this thread makes me wnat to buy some=)

[wastememphis]

My small one was like $26 which I know was pricy. I've seen colonies for $68 and pretty large ones for $150

[cwegescheide]

Hey rhdoug that looks like a dendronepthea to me... Nice piece. I'd like to have one of those myself.

IME the Palau Sinularias grow pretty slow actually while other sinularias grow like weeds.

Chris

[Nammy]

The species I have is supposed to be the Palau Nepthea

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/14952DSCF0071__Small_.JPG

[cyclops23]

i guess i'm not going to worry about it. I've had it for awhile, and it's still alive, so that's good, right? the color is still awesome. BTW, I paid $30 for this little frag. pricy, i know, but worth every penny(it's THAT cool).

[tacomareefer]

heres mine...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/jojo253/greennepthea.jpg

[Rmcm2424]

Here is mine, bought it many years ago as a small frag and it has grown into a gorgeous colony.


http://web.utk.edu/~clowe6/nyc%20134.jpg

[siren]

one of the biologists at the Oklahoma Aquarium has a of this in her system, but she says it's "green tree Sinuaria". Whats the difference? She says that nepthia isn't photosynthetic...that true?

[cwegescheide]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8468596#post8468596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by siren
one of the biologists at the Oklahoma Aquarium has a of this in her system, but she says it's "green tree Sinuaria". Whats the difference? She says that nepthia isn't photosynthetic...that true?

From what I've heard the Dendronephthea is a filter feeder. The Nephthea is photosynthetic..

[djmuzzi]

Nepthea is photosynthetic. Dendro & scleronepthea are not. sometimes Neospongodes are mislabled as Nepthea too.....

[Skateboarder]

Yeah its really that green.:):eek2:

[Shawnts106]

Anyone have any Orange Neptheas?

[sonofgaladriel]

Here's my Palau green tree. Started as a 1/2" frag about 16 months ago.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/sonofgaladriel/DSC03886Medium.jpg

[Melody]

Nepthea under 250w metal halide - ushio 10k.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/MelodySurber/neptheya577x600.jpg

[vipjd39]

very nice everyone

[vipjd39]

if anyone is willing to frag, pm me

[Racing1]

Here's mine I just got about a week ago. Keeping under VHO's and it seems to like the lower level of the tank. Had it up higher in the tank and it would stay closed.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/prbhasson/greennepthea.jpg

[Shawnts106]

I have a green one that I saved from another reefer months and months back, it has NEVER extended its branches much at all... polyps are tiny and compact... I know its a nepthea...

what is its deal?

I have tried all types of water movement from high to med to low to alternating

I have tried everywhere in the tank...

is it just a dwarf nepthea or what! haa

[miatawnt2b]

Would love a frag of a bright green one. Please PM if interested.
-J

[ChloroPhil]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7542112#post7542112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefnewbie54321


Heres some pictures I found in reefkeeping magazine,


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/tonyrox1/untitledSM.jpg



What issue was this in? That's almost exactly how I want my tank to be and I'd like to know more about it.

[jc5205]

Very Nice, what was this in ?

[graveyardworm]

Probably in one of the TOTM articles.

[graveyardworm]

Found it, Soft corals that paved the way... (http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-12/nftt/index.php)

[coastieslk]

mine under full actinics

[WaterbugJenn]

http://home.comcast.net/~jennyleep/images/GreenTreeCoral2007.jpg
Not sure if this is a Nepthea. It was sold to as green tree coral. I have had it for three months. Pic does not show its true beauty, exspecially under the actinics.

[WaterbugJenn]

OOps sorry bout the huge pic guess i forgot to resize lol

[drummereef]

I always thought mine was a Sinularia... oh well. :D


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h215/brettvoelker/Neongreensinularia.jpg

[graveyardworm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9033500#post9033500 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drummereef
I always thought mine was a Sinularia... oh well. :D


Probably is.

[syrinx]

How bad are these guys around their neighbors? Such as montiporas and zooanthids and whatnot.

[booduh]

cwegescheide, I see you have a frag of the green, willing to trade or sell? Also I have read the green and pink varieities have been dyed. Do they retain their color or eventually fade back to a tan?

[drummereef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9035546#post9035546 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by graveyardworm
Probably is.

Yeah, I went back and studied up a bit and I'm sticking with my original id. Sinularia it is! :)