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Agu
03/11/2005, 04:06 PM
I went seining with Neil in the backwaters of the intracostal and found some interesting critters. My favorite the green shrimp....

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/2DSCN0834.jpg

It would be fun to go out again .

Agu

wahwoo
03/11/2005, 07:45 PM
Where can you buy a sein net? Are they expensive? My wife and I were talking about doing that recently. But, since we're new to the area we feel theres a lot we dont know about safety.

Did you just jump in? Did you wear waiters? Did you sein from boats? Tell me some more about it. Is this a stupid question? - what about gators? Its all new to us so we have a lot of quesions.

Thanks,

Dave

sandman12
03/11/2005, 07:53 PM
u can get them at wal mart. Jump in the water (it takes 2 people) and drag it. Me and my friend have cuaght: puffers, rock fish, seahorses,green shrimp, regular shrimp (which we used for bait), lots of file fish, angel fish (black and white stipes like a sheepshead), baby trout, and some unknowns. Its lots of fun. The nets r about $20, u dont need poles to use them. Just tie the strings together and put ur foot down and drag it.

Agu
03/11/2005, 09:15 PM
Dave,

If we can get a net for $20 are you up for it ? Neil took me to the shallows of the Intracoastal, we waded out to about waist deep and dragged the seine to shore. And it's not a stupid question , I had the same questions/concerns.

Gators don't go in saltwater, that would be crocodiles :lol: .

Agu

wahwoo
03/11/2005, 09:32 PM
Sure! I'm up for it. I'll try to check around for the net tomorrow.

Thats good about the gators.

.... oh and do we or dont we have crocodiles?

I should know this but I kind of remember hearing about re-introduction of crocs somewhere and dont remember if it was in FL.

Dare to be Daring!

Dave

Bugs825
03/12/2005, 10:40 AM
Hey guys,

I'm game and i have a boat!!!

Let me know
Nathan

Agu
03/12/2005, 12:24 PM
Nathan,

We don't need a boat but a third hand is always welcome.

Here's beginning seining,

http://www.njmsc.org/Education/Lesson%20Plans/Worksheets/How_To_Make_A_Seine_Net.htm

Agu

sandman12
03/12/2005, 01:11 PM
get sets of doubles and seine the whole river!!!!

Agu
03/12/2005, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by sandman12
get sets of doubles and seine the whole river!!!!

James,

There is a legal net size so that might not be the best plan :lol: .

However Dave and I have preliminary plans for next Saturday. The only time I've gone was behind the north beach on Manasota key, anybody know a better spot?

Also, does anybody know the regs so we don't end up in jail ? I've read the regs but haven't seen much regarding seining .

Anybody else want in ??

Agu

sandman12
03/12/2005, 08:04 PM
do a google search for florida saltwater collecting regulations or something and u will find that u can 10-15 items (around there) excluding rock and some speacial speacies. I ment u can get the 20' nets and a bunch of people and seine the whole river :).

I always go in the intercoastal (cortez). Best spots are those with alot of grass. If u have a boat, wait till next crab season (Or u could try now) and throw out 5 traps. MY friends uncle (commercial fisherman) has gotten anglers, octopus (lots this year), and some other cool fish and mantis shrimp.

James

wahwoo
03/13/2005, 08:10 AM
Check out this site for the tides. I dont know the area well enough to determine which section to go to in this area. I'll leave that to you guys.

http://www.saltwatertides.com/dynamic.dir/floridagulfsites.html

Dave

Bugs825
03/13/2005, 11:16 AM
Hey guys,

What about south Lido??? I have fished there a lot and there are tons of fish on the grass flats. It is close to the pass so it gets great current flow. The area is where the canoe trails are.

Nathan

Agu
03/13/2005, 01:18 PM
Went scouting for spots and had a realization :rolleyes: . Red Tide is out there now, not sure I want anything from the Gulf in my tanks until that clears.

Agu

wahwoo
03/13/2005, 10:17 PM
Ive been reading about the red tide and asked a few Drs about it. They claim that it doesnt cause any long term health problems. The diatoms that cause it are normal variety. We probably have them in our tanks right now. Our tanks dont have the conditions needed to cause a red tide bloom. If thats true then we dont have to worry... if thats true.

The red tide seems to be all over the world. Do you think that coral and fish harvesters stop collecting in Asia because of it? Id say its doubtful. They probably keep on collecting and selling to American distributors during their red tides. How many of our store bought corals came from red tde affected areas? Who knows?

myakkareef
03/14/2005, 07:16 AM
When we were in High school marine biology we always seined off of City Island in Sarasota..Also the kayak launch at South Lido there is a large grass flat that probally contains tons of interesting stuff...Cool project guys, Let the Red tide pass and the water warm alittle and this would be fun day for a meeting.
Wahwoo-No Crocs up here, down in the everglades there are Saltwater Crocs...By the way do not let the Gators scare you, If you ever want to get up close to them let me know. we kayak some rivers that are loaded..:D

wahwoo
03/14/2005, 09:12 PM
Whats up Scott?

We should talk about that stuff. Im itching to get into outdoor activities and get to know the wildlife and natural settings. Im up for just about anything. But.... getting close to gators? I just imagine falling in and being ripped to shreds.

I guess its just a matter of learning from those with experience. I knew the mountains where I came from like the back of my hand. People from the city would be scared of the forests because of the bears and cougar and rattlesnakes. I had enough knowledge about them not to be scared in their settings. This area is new to me so I want to get out there but Im apprehensive about what I dont know around here.

Dave

Agu
03/14/2005, 10:35 PM
Dave ,

Change the location in your ID, you're a a Floridian now. We'll get you out there slopping in the muck.

Agu

myakkareef
03/15/2005, 07:00 AM
Trust me Dave Common Sense goes along way...The most dangerous things in this area is the roads and the sun....Catcha at the next meeting...Scotty

wahwoo
03/15/2005, 07:33 PM
Ok, Scott, you lead.....

The roads are pretty bad. Traveling to Ft Meyers lately Ive seen wrecks almost every day. How do you flip over two cars on a straight road in a city? That was this afternoon. This morning Rte 75 had a dump Truck and an 18 wheeler colide and flip speading sand and gravel all over the N. bound lane. Thankfully I was heading south.

Agu, lets catch them critters! I should change my ID. Last night I spent an hour trying to size down a picture small enough to be an avatar. Then i gave up. I had the picture so small you could hardley see it and it was still bigger than 150 x 150 pixels. Whats the trick to that?

wahwoo
03/15/2005, 08:57 PM
Here is a helpful link. It tells all we need to know about collecting fish and corals and it mentions seining as a legal collection method.

http://myfwc.com/marine/recreational/recharvestmls.htm

wahwoo
03/15/2005, 09:09 PM
Water Temp:

http://www.landbigfish.com/watertemps/watertemperatures.cfm?ID=12

wahwoo
03/15/2005, 09:22 PM
Idea for future meeting - R E E F S - local

http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/col/projects/coral/coralreef/FL_Westside.html

Has any one been to these? I also saw two reefs off of Venice Beach on an areal photo. One is swimming distance from shore.

Bugs825
03/16/2005, 05:57 AM
I think that one is a mile off. I have heard of people swimming to it but not me! I have fished out there and there are some big fishes in that there puddle. :D
But, thats where my boat would come in. I can not scuba, due to the lung thing. But i can fish.

There is a really nice area of grass flat near stump pass but you have to get to it by boat.

I like the activities at the meetings! Let do it soon!!!!!

Nathan

PS I thought that Red Tide was a "thing" in the water that absorbes oxygen and the fish die of the lack???

Pete Starostecki
03/16/2005, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Pete Starostecki
Florida reefs (http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/col/projects/coral/coralreef/CoralFL.html)

Gasparilla Island (http://flshoredives.nexuswebs.net/lee.html) has a reef off the beach (http://flshoredives.nexuswebs.net/17reefs.html). This place looks great and is only an hour from my house. Doesn't sound like its protected. Anyone ever dive down there?

Its not sein stuff, but looks awesome! I posted this a few months ago in the SCUBA forum.

sandman12
03/16/2005, 09:04 PM
Wahoo- that link with the regulations was the one i was talking about. Good link.

Agu
03/16/2005, 10:02 PM
Do we need fishing licenses?

Agu

wahwoo
03/16/2005, 10:08 PM
Pete,

Thanks for the link. I was looking for the one showing areal views of Gasparilla. I had it then lost it about a month ago.

Nathan, Check this out Venice Beach:

http://flshoredives.nexuswebs.net/circlek.html

http://flshoredives.nexuswebs.net/sarasota.html

Do a net search on red tide. Its a mass of diatoms that release a toxin. When they bloom into a red tide the toxin is concentrated and chokes the wild life. When we go to the beach and start coughing, its because the wind over the surf carries the toxin airborn. We breath it and start to choke.

wahwoo
03/16/2005, 10:39 PM
Agu,

I dont think you need a fishing lisence, but we do.

A Florida resident doesnt need a lisence if standing on land, dock or in up to 4 feet of water. You need the lisence fishing from a private boat but not on a public charter. A Florida resident is defined as residing here continuously for at least 6 months. We dont qualify yet and will have to buy a non-resident lisence. Roughly they are about $7.00 for one day, $13.00 for 3 days and $35.00 for one year. Those figures are not exact but should be pretty close.

Dave

wahwoo
03/16/2005, 10:43 PM
That was commented for the Seining.

For the reefs, I think every one would need a lisence to collect since its deeper than 4 feet and we wouldnt be standing.

Bugs825
03/17/2005, 05:23 AM
Hey Wahoo

I think that if you have moved here and have a FL drivers lisence then you are fine for the shallow stuff. Yes if you go deeper then 4 feet or on a boat then you do need lisence.

scubadude
03/17/2005, 06:38 PM
When are you guys talking about doing this? Date/time yet? I might want in if Im not tied down to anything else. I think Boca Grande area would provide some good seining areas too as well as some good snorkeling right off land....theres like a $7 fee for crossing over the bridge though, but we could all pack into a mini van (i have one now) if need be and it would be like a buck a person.

Originally posted by wahwoo
Nathan, Check this out Venice Beach:

http://flshoredives.nexuswebs.net/circlek.html


I have dove this site many times....lots of sharks teeth on this reef (theres a fossil bed right there by it), the only thing bad about this area is that visibility is rarely more than 4', however there is some interesting stuff there.

Agu
03/17/2005, 07:13 PM
"When are you guys talking about doing this? Date/time yet? "

The official plan , "When Rocky can make it" ;) .

We're going to discuss it at the next meeting.

Agu

wahwoo
03/17/2005, 07:44 PM
Walmart in Venice only has one person circular throwing nets.

Has any one found the larger rectangular two person nets with poles? Like the kind in Agus diagram. I want to try a large sporting goods store but havent had the time yet.

Rocky, that sounds realy cool.

sandman12
03/17/2005, 07:55 PM
At my wal-mart the nets where on a top self. They dont come with pulls and u dont really need them. Me and my friend have a one person seine net device. Its like a huge sand flea catcher with smaller mess for seineing.

Iam in for any reef dives/snorkles.

Pete Starostecki
03/18/2005, 04:02 PM
I'm in! I'm in! If we're doing anything deeper, I also have two sets of dive gear. I also have a real nice aluminum canoe. I used to canoe the trails by Lido. Very cool stuff over there! I haven't used it for years and am putting it out for the neighborhood garage sale tomorrow. However, if fate continues as it has for the past 10 years, I'll still have it come Monday.

Agu
03/18/2005, 06:11 PM
Pete,

What's your price ? I've been looking for a canoe.

Don't want to violate RC rules so send me a pm.

Agu