.75 gallon featuring clam,acans, and sps

[cjm033]

this is my .75 gallon setup last march its stocked with acans,a monti,maxima clam,zoos,yellow polyps,a few small shrooms,favities brain,candy canes and some other stuff. the tank is lit by a 7 watt 72k and 13 watt 50/50 (soon to be actinic) pc i dose calc and alk, and only top off about 2 times a week. waterchanges once a week, im gonna start feeding the tank 2 times a week now that i got the acans in there. the glass isnt dirty its just scratched reallly bad. the front use to be covered in corraline and i scraped it off and acryllic and scraping corraline dont go together. anyone have any questions or comment please ask im open to anything, im sure there will be flames for the clam in the pico but its been in there doin great since early december.
-Chris

.75 with new acans, cnady cane, zoos, and gsp on back glass
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/cjm033/acan.jpg

[xahx]

thats like fitting all of that into a milk jug!

[Andrew]

HOLY $%*! Thats a neat nano. That clam in outgrowing it.

[cjm033]

less than a milk jug lol. thanks for the comments. ijust got my acans and i cant wait for em to grow a second head. i may end up geting a new .75 gal tank and transfer everything from this one when i move in 2 or 3 months so itll be cleaner and have no scratches.

[CPT. MURPHY]

nice !

[cjm033]

thanks.
-Chris

[john76]

Are you sure thats a max and not a crocea?

[Jus Reefin]

Now that is a NANO

[The Shrimp X]

few questions.

What kind of SPS is that?

I thought that a clam needed a lot more light espescialy a maxima or corcea? am i right? or is it just that since its so close to the light it doent matter?

An last, how in the world do you have such an amazing nano and not tell me about it. lol. j/k

[cjm033]

im pretty sure its a maxima, the sign said it was a maxima where i bought it from.the sps is a monti. i guess its a combo of there being 20 watts over a .75 gallon and that its close to the light. you didnt know cause it was on the underground lol.

[The Shrimp X]

can you get a side veiw of the clam, that way i can get an ID of it and make sure its a maxima, it does look like a corcea now that im looking at it.

[cjm033]

ill try to get a shot of the side of the clam so i can have positive i.d. but its hard since the sides of my tank are completly covered in corraline.

[mightymouse]

isnt that clam gonna get to big for that small tank and what kind of lights are you running? my hats off to you for being able to keep a clam in that small of a tank i want one in my 2.5 but am scared to try clams

[The Shrimp X]

wow i never noticed that you are in Virginia. Where are you? Im in suffolk, you should check out the Hampton Roads Reef Club, its alot of fun.

[cjm033]

hampton roads isnt that in va beach? im in king george va im about n hour n a half from va beach if that. ill definatly check that out. if you havent checked wamas out yet thatd be a good idea for you that reef club is awesome, and were hosting macna this year. i have 1 13 watt 50/50 and 1 7 wat 72k. and after the clam gets too big ill move it to my 40 breeder im geting in april.

[mightymouse]

yeah i would definately check out wamas great club with alot of great people whats ur name on wamas cjm?

[cjm033]

its the same as on here.

[mightymouse]

o ok thats really a great looking tank by the way how many watts are you rinning on that tank again? and could one be kept with 26 watts over a 2.5 gallon?

[cjm033]

well i guess around last night my 7 watt blew out, and i found out this mourning but didnt realzie it till now what happened. so it was 1 13 watt and 1 17 watt. but im geting a 13 watt on wed (im doing over night but since the order wasnt by 1 itll be here wed.) so now there will be 26 watts over the .75. im really mad tho, my purple acan frag has started to have tissue recession and some of the skeleton is poking out. i know its not water quality cause i just did a w/c yesterday and my tank is very stable. i know its not food because i feed it every other day. im guessing its the light going out thats the only thing i can think of. who woulda thought this much stress from a tank not even the size of a milk jug ? lol. i hope the acan can recover as soon as i get my new lights.

[Gatorfan]

Cool little tank, it is a crocea btw :)

[cjm033]

thanks for the kind comment and the id. now that ive been looking at pics of croceas i think it is one.

[ich_commando]

"who woulda thought this much stress from a tank not even the size of a milk jug"

classic.

[cjm033]

anyone have any hints to help my acan survive and do better? i really dont want it to die its a really nice looking coral and wasnt exactly cheap.
thanks
-Chris

[The Shrimp X]

I dont have an yacans, so i am not sure what you can do except keep the water quality and lighting as stable as possible.




is there any way we can see a pic of your light set up?

[cjm033]

yeah, ill post one tomorrow when i get my new light. hopefully the new light will help the acan recover, at least i know i have 6 more watts comming tho:)

[mightymouse]

good luck with your coral hope it pulls through

[cjm033]

thanks, but thinks arent looking too good for it. hopefully itll somehow pull through tho.

[mightymouse]

well ive had xena start back up from nubbs so its possible for it to come abck and ive seen almost dead brain corals with little to noi colro start to come back and recover but good luck anything is possible

[DurangoReeFarm,]

wow, i was worried aboutt he water voilume in my 29 gallon system..
youre in a class of few. .75 gal is amazing..

[cjm033]

thanks.

[NewSchool04]

You boy's like MEXICO!!!!!!

[Jovreefer]

try to feed the acan some brine. I got a damaged one last week and have been feeding him, he's looking real good now.

[floridajhawk]

jovreefer lookin for that place with the mantis
in desperate need over here

[Shikaroka]

Maybe it was shocked from too much light. With that many watts per gallon, then you would probably need to acclimate them slowly.

What are you going to do if the clam decides to attach itself?

I need to get some new pictures of my Pico.

[cjm033]

it started having tissue recession the day after the light went out so thats why i think it started. the clam attached within the first week of having it. im not worried about moving it now, i figure wheni eventually move it ill just take the rock out with it or slowly remove the clam from the rock over a week time span.

[Shikaroka]

Oh, that's cool, as long as he doens't attach to the acrylic. That's what I'm worried about.

[Milhouse]

Originally posted by Shikaroka
Maybe it was shocked from too much light. With that many watts per gallon, then you would probably need to acclimate them slowly.



It's 20 watts. Doesn't matter what the size of the tank, 20 watts is 20 watts. If it was a 100gal and it was the same distance from the bulb, it would be the same light intensity. I can't imagine the water quality is all that great in the little thing. Maybe that's what is leading to the slow demise. Personally I wouldn't spend much on an animal going in to my nano. It's a lot easier for things to go wrong.

[cjm033]

thw tanks water quality is actually perfect, o nitrates or trites and no ammonia, ph 8.3 and specific gravity of 1.024, the calc is around 480. the tank has been up for a year (this month is its one year mark) so i think the tank is under control enough, considering that acan is the first thing to look bad in the tank for a long time.

[ghostbear29]

I think your right about the light issue. I have a tubastrea that got all pi$$ed off when a snail died in my tank and raised water quality issues. I thought for sure it was dead. Then after the water change and some new Microvert food in the tank, whoalla the tubastrea is gaining tissue again and getting longer tentacles. Good luck with yours. Sorry such a pain in the ***.

[cjm033]

im probly gonna do another w/c tomorrow and feed it some more tonight, and see what happens.

[cjm033]

update on the acan. i fed it the last few days and have noticed alot of the tissue is growing back, and the acan is doign a a lot better. and my micromussa is growing pretty darn fast too.

[Sugar Magnolia]

Pics! We need pics!

[mightymouse]

yes i agree i would also like to see some more pictures

[cjm033]

alright ill clean the tank this week and do another wc so the tank looks pretty and get some more pics for yall. its been hard to maintain the tank this week cause ive been sick but im feelin better, and so is the acan so im happy.

[tsquad]

Nice tank :D

[cjm033]

o i forgot if you want we can probly do a mini frag swap / tank tour at my house, i like to show my nanos off :). maybe the second week of april if anyones interested, because my birthday is the 8th and i should be getting a buncha new corals for my 3 gallon and the .75 and im getn a 40 breeder with hallides. lmk if your interested.

[stellablu]

Me: What does he use for circulation in that?
Boyfriend: He puts a straw in it and blows.

haha seriously. Cool.

[NwG]

Looks nice.... I also think the clam is not a max...

good thing the acan is doing good... 1 thing dies and it may nuke the whole thing......

[cjm033]

thanks for the comments. the acan has stoppd geting better its really weird itll be good and do better then suddenly do bad again. im starting to think that whenit was fragged there may have been some damage to it now. my micromussa already has a baby head growing to the side about 1/4 a cm, and everything elese in the tank is doing good. i wander what it could be?

[mightymouse]

wow im still amazed at what youve done with this i would love to come see your tank if your wanting to do a tank tour but i cnat frag anything except my xenia right now but i do have a sun coral ill give you that is dieing if you think you can get it to grow back i think i dotn have a spot shaded enough in my tank for it

[clsund]

Sorry if these comments are negative, but your tank is way too small with way too little light and not enough volume.

You do realize that clams require phyto and not just light to survive right? And that you need to feed the acan and micro? And that all the things you do may not be enough anyways because there is so little space?

If you feed the clam like it needs to be fed, that will totally do a number on your water quality because it is so small. A nano that size should only be limited to zoos and other simple corals like xenia and the like. I'm quessing that your clam is dying a slow death by starvation and when it starts dying, its going to take the whole tank with it. Sorry, but that's the sad reality.

[The Shrimp X]

Not to burst your bubble or anything but, clams after they reach a size of about 3-4 inches they mostly depend on light but yes they do need to be fed, but in such a small area it will be easier, you will need to feed less, as it will be in a small area, but also, it feeds everything else, if he added a few drops of DT's it would be perfect for everything. Also if the clam is growning, keeping great color, and the clam is not having any mantle problems, then its fine. If the SPS corals he is keeping are doing good then a clams would be no problem. Clams are actually eay to keep given the right conditions, they are benefisial toa all tanks beacuse they suck out Nitrates, Nitrites, and Phosphates. Just because most people cant keep clams and SPS in a small tank doesnt mean that one person cant. The acan is probibly very stressed due to the lighting. But the clam looks great. So unless he starts seing any problems like pinched mantle, little mantle extension, color loss, or any thing else wrong the let it be.

[The Shrimp X]

Sorry after re reading my post i didnt mean to make it sound so offensive .

[mightymouse]

i completely agree with you shrimp x given the right conditions a clam can thrive in a small environment all he will hafta do is move it when it gets bigger

[cjm033]

the clam is definatly thriving, one acan is doing bad (probly gonna die) but my micromussa already has a second head popping up and i havent even had it a month. i guess the sad reality is your being a negitive nancy about the whole situtation. considering my tank has been up a year old this month with no crash, and the clam has been fine since mid december and growing, ill keep on keepin on with the tank and watch everything grow out since the one acan is the first thing to die in the tank besides a birdsnest that died a month ago and i believe that may have been due to light shock. anyways, as long as the tanks doin good i dont see any reason for me to take it down.

[Dazz]

Shananigans!

[cjm033]

i want a liter of cola.

[gman0526]

Not to deviate your thread but mightymouse, sun corals don't "need" shade to thrive what they need is spot feeding (2-3x a week) and good H2O circulation.

Just after feeding
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Gman0526/SunCoral3.jpg

cjm033:
Tank looks awesome, now sorry if I missed it but, how often do you do WC?

[mightymouse]

my sun coral was being feed like every other day it looks liek it has stopped dieing off and some might pull trhough but i cant get the live polyps to coem out so i can feed i can just see a small mouth at the bottom i just hope with more wcs they will pull through they were 38 dollars and now my nitrates are up a little bit :(

[bill33]

chris,

beatuiful tank but the clam is going to crash and burn my featherd friend and imploid and catch on fire

Big Bill

[cjm033]

i do w/c every week or every other week. thanks for the comments.

bill- lol

new update i ordered from live aquaria and got my order lastnight, it was ridiculus. i got a sexy shrimp , 2 spot bimactulus (sp)blenny, and a harlequin sea slug for the .75 and i got a small dwarf fuzzy lion for my 3 gallon and the lion and sexy were dead this mourning. i ordereed with bill and his dwarf angel he ordered for his 29 also died overnight. we both acclimated for a bout and hour n a half to 2 hours with drip. anyways i dont think ill ever be ordering from foster smith or live aquaria ever again the service was horrible, and the quality of the animals was also bad. the blenny and slug are doing fine tho. the blenny actually took up residence on my clams mantle and just sits there now, its kinda like hes hosting, ill try to get pictures this week if i can. o and my miscromussa had another baby head pop up this week i just found. :)

[Shikaroka]

You're keeping fish in there too? :worried:

[cjm033]

yeah its an inch long and thats its max size, all they do all day is lay around so its not like its a fish that needs a ton of swimming room. and it seems to be happy so far. it even ate today.

[Shikaroka]

But, won't he put undue stress on the corals? With the aggrevations and extra nutrients.
I can't imagine a clam liking having a fish set on its mantle.

[cjm033]

so far the clam has surprisingly not been closed up or anything, its been open as it always is. as far as extra nutrients, ithink the tank is fine since i have chaeto in the filter and i do water changes or try to do water changes weekly lol.

[Shikaroka]

That's what's keeping it going. The weekly water changes.

[cjm033]

well considering ive been lax and forget th last 3 weeks, everythings been fine. the system has been left without waterchages for a month and been running perfectly good. i have to get to petco sometimes this week and pickup some nsw and im probly ognna end up doin a w/c in a week or 2.

[Shikaroka]

You're a lucky man! I've got more light and more filtration on my 3/4 gallon nano, and I don't think I'd try what you're doing.

[cjm033]

wat kinda light do you have over oyur 3/4 gallon? and got ne pics of it?

[Shikaroka]

Here is a picture of it, from a year ago, right after I set it up.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/62077Whole_thing-sized.jpg

It looks quite different now, so I need new pics.

In that picture I have a 18w PC Coralife (50/50) over the tank and a 13w PC over the fuge in the back. I have since added another 13w PC and a protien skimmer.

[cjm033]

do you have any of the plans you used for the protien skimmer? id be very interested in those if you do. that light setup looks awesome.

[Shikaroka]

No, I never really made any plans. I just built it and played around with it.
Thanks.

[mightymouse]

that sux u had such a bad eperiecne with live aquaria ive always thought they were good and had thought of getting somethring from them so thanx for the warning