Cyclop-eeze Order

[Brian Prestwood]

Like Tim said, it is cheaper if you order a lot at once...

Cyclop-Eeze (http://www.cyclop-eeze.com)

Jehmco (http://www.jehmco.com)

FreezeBar (http://www.freezerbar.com)

I'd like to order at least one case ($240). That's 8 750g blocks which brings the cost/block with shipping down to $30.

As best I can tell, you feed 1/2 inch cube/50 gal/day of cyclop-eeze. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG!

A 1/2 inch cube weighs around a gram. Three months is an ideal supply for frozen food. Any longer than that and it deteriorates. So, that's 100 grams/50 gallons.

In other words, each 750g block is a three month supply for seven 50 gallon tanks. Each case is enough for fifty 50 gallon tanks.

If we get enough takers for a whole case then the cost per 100g is $5.00.

Who wants some?

How many 100g blocks?

Here's a FAMA article on cyclop-eeze...

FAMA Cyclop-Eeze Article (http://www.cyclop-eeze.com/fama.htm)

[brentp]

I'll take 4 100g blocks.

[Photon]

Brian,
Put me down for some. I will get back to you with the totals. I have three tanks so I will figure out how much I need.
Now it is your turn to do the group buys.....I did the last two!!!
James

[Brian Prestwood]

James

Good job. I'd be happy to do this one. Let me know how much you need.

[tpete]

Brian, put me down for 1 of the 750g blocks. I'm not a math whiz but that should be no more than $40, correct? Is this the frozen stuff of do they have some dehydrated product? Let me know. Terry.

[Brian Prestwood]

Terry

I'm ordering the frozen stuff. They do have the freeze dried. Based on my estimates 750 g is a three month supply for 7 100 gallon tanks. It will cost $30.

Do you have that many tanks? Do you feed more than 2 grams a day to a 100 gal tank?

They do have the freeze dried stuff too. I can order some of that too. It is a lot cheaper.

[RasBobre]

Brian - Please put me down for 400 gms, $20 worth. I would be interested in checking out the freeze dried stuff too if you can get that delivered in the same order in lesser quantities. Thanks a lot for putting this together and the link to the story, I've been interested in this product since Tim mentioned it. -Robert

[tfp]

Brian,
Please put me down also for 400 gms, $20 worth too. I only use it 2-3 times a week but might start using it more often.

[sagitariuscbc]

If you want the good stuff I would stick with the freezer bar. This is the product everyone is talking about. I feed it to my fesh water tanks as well. Everything goes crazy for it!
Maybe Doug Lee can get some of the freshwater group to go in on the order? This would truely benefit all of our animals!

shawn

[Dakan]

Thanks Brian. I will take 400 grams as well.

[barebottoms]

Originally posted by Brian Prestwood

I'd like to order at least one case ($240). That's 8 750g blocks which brings the cost/block with shipping down to $30.


Where are you guys getting 400 gram and 100 gram from?

[thereefgeek]

Bri, put me down for 1 400g block as well! I've heard good things about this stuff.

[Brian Prestwood]

Bare Bottoms

They sell a case of 8 750 g blocks for around $240. Most people can't use a whole 750 g block up in three months so we're going to cut the eight 750 g blocks up into 100 g chunks.

[L13]

Brian

Put me down for 200g. Based on what you said that should feed a 100 gal for 3 months at 2g per day. Approximately. Correct?

Jim

[headshrink]

I'll take 100g gor my 55gal ($5).
Thanks

[Brian Prestwood]

Rich

Got you down for 400 grams.

FYI - they come in 750 gram blocks. I'm going to cut those into seven 100 gram (and change) blocks.

You'll get four 100 g blocks.

[Brian Prestwood]

Jim

That's correct.

[user48953]

Will most corals feed on cyclop-eeze? i.e. can this be used as a generic "feed all" for corals

thanks

[sagitariuscbc]

please put us down for $20.00 worth!

thanks brian,

shawn and cathy:)

[sagitariuscbc]

xdroccax,
This would be a better "feed all"

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=176530

HTH,

Shawn

[sagitariuscbc]

I'm also interested in Golden Pearls!

[thereefgeek]

Brian, thanks. Let me know when it's in.

[budgetyourself]

Just for information sake, I would only feed the cyclop-eeze once or twice a week for quite a while - it is very easy to over feed with it. Therefore, your blocks will go a lot farther. I have been using it for a long time and everything loves it but so do the aptasia, so you have to take the good with the bad. Pam

[user48953]

Originally posted by sagitariuscbc
xdroccax,
This would be a better "feed all"

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=176530

HTH,

Shawn

thanks! :thumbsup:

huy

[jayson_219@yahoo.com]

hey im not a membe rof mars yet but can i get in on the order?? i have a 30 gallon tank so would that be a 100g block or is that too much for 3 months???

[user48953]

Brian.. Put me down for 200g ($10)

thanks
huy

[budgetyourself]

Just to give people an idea how much to order - I have a 3 ounce block (someone can figure out out many grams that is) that has lasted me over 4 months feeding twice a week with some sill left in a 75 and 40 G. tank. You only need to shave off a little and mix it in water to feed it. Pam

[Brian Prestwood]

Pam

Do you feed frozen or dried freeze?

A 1/2 inch frozen cube is about a half of a teaspoon. How many teaspoons do you feed per week?

[Brian Prestwood]

Jayson

You'll have to pick it up. You can come to the meeting or arrange with a member to drop it off.

[Brian Prestwood]

Pam

Ignore my question about how much you feed. We must have been posting at the same time.

[jayson_219@yahoo.com]

i have no problem with picking it up. how much would i need for a 30 gallon tank??

[Brian Prestwood]

Pam

3 ounces is 85 grams. We're in the ballpark.

[Brian Prestwood]

So far I count 36 100 g orders. We need 56 for a case.

[Brian Prestwood]

Shawn

FWIW - Dr. Shimek said Golden Pearls well sized but have a poor fatty acid profile.

I've been using them. I'll probably switch to freeze dried Cyclop-Eeze.

[budgetyourself]

I probably don't even feed 1/4 of a teaspoon when I feed - a little goes a real long way. Shawn, I have two of the small sized golden pearls and have plenty to give you to try - I feed some about twice a week just to cover all of the bases. Pam

[sagitariuscbc]

Great! that is exactly what i was looking for! i will be at the next meeting, i could get it from you then.

thanks pam,

shawn:)

[Photon]

Brian,
I have been using cyclops-eeze for a while and the fish and corals love it. If you use diatom bags, I would suggest cutting off the pumps because it gets filtered out really easily.
A word of warning, it thaws really quickly! Just cutting an amount off from the frozen block can sometimes be a mess.
I still will be ordering it! Good stuff.
Put me down for a 750 gram block. That way you won't have to deal with cutting it up.

James

Pam,
One ounce equals 28.3 grams.

[tpete]

Brian, I stand by my order. Put me down for 750 gms, $30 worth if there is enough to go around. I'm not sure I buy into the only good for 3months freezer life. I have not noticed that with my sanjay frozen foods. Thanks, Tery.

[HKS]

It it's not too late, I'm in for $20 worth of the stuff. I can't make it to meetings so I'll have to pick it up at a member's house.

Thanks,
John

[student]

please put me down for $20 worth thx.

[mx_tang]

Hi guys,

I just wanted to let you know that cyclop-eeze is notorious for not having 750g blocks to even 1 sig fig. Often, you'll have a variance between 600-900g, but the company pro-rates the blocks per gram. This means that if you're paying 2.917¢ per gram before shipping. So, if you buy 100g, then it would be $2.92, but anything ±15g could be split up fairly using a gram scale. I know it's not that bad, but splitting up a 600g or even sub-600g block 7 ways may give some people less cyclop-eeze. This would be even worse for some people wanting nearly a block because the ±15g per 100g differential would be multiplied by the amount of freezer bar equivalents they bought. I didn't mean to intrude onto your forum, but simply meant to give some useful FYI.

[Brian Prestwood]

mx_tang (Mike)

Thanks for the info. Please do intrude. Not sure how I'm going to deal with short shipping. We're getting a great price so it should work out.

[brentp]

To make it easier I'll take an entire block whatever it ends up weighing.

[sagitariuscbc]

brian, would you combine tims and my order. so we are looking for an uncut 750g bar. this way you will not have to cut it up.
thanks!,

shawn:)

[Dakan]

Brian, In the hopes of simplifying things please change my order to a whole block. Thanks.

[Beerman]

Beerman will take $20 worth, please.

[tpete]

Brian. What is the difference between the frozen cyclops and the freeze dried? If they are the same thing and the freeze dried is cheaper and it sounds like easier to work with, why not just get the freeze dried? What are these golden pearls I see mentioned?Thanks. Terry

[Brian Prestwood]

Terry

Perhaps we should order freeze dried. I just haven't heard much about it. Everyone seems to use frozen. I am going to order a little to test.

Golden Pearls are fish food "pellets" that come in an usually wide range of sizes starting at very small. The smallest sizes are intended to replace rotifers when raising fish fry. The quality of the food isn't so good though.

[budgetyourself]

Frozen is the only way to go - the freeze dried is harder to mix up.

[Brian Prestwood]

Terry

That should have said "come in an unusually wide range of sizes"

[tpete]

Brian, I related more to the first usage of come in a wide variety of sizes starting at very small. Frozen works for me. When might we see this arriving or are we still short of the minimun? Terry

[ReefAddict1]

I'm a newby, and was wondering how does payment work when you get the right amount of 'orders'? I have Paypal. What about shipping / delivery for frozen goods or is this only available to Northern Cal folks? I'm in Burbank / Valencia CA.

Otherwise, I'd be ineterested in one block size to try out on my Nano. I'm having a 55G custom built in the next few weeks and may have another request later.

Thanks,
E

[sagitariuscbc]

ReefAddict1

here are some locals talking about cyclop-eeze in your area. shipping involves dry ice it might cost alot.

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=323919

hth

[ReefAddict1]

Sagitariuscbc,

Thanks for the link! I wish more local LFS' will be carrying this soon.

E

[skierguy]

Has the order been placed? If not I would like to try about 100g.

[Brian Prestwood]

Everyone

I haven't placed the order yet. I was going to order it so it arrives just before the March meeting. But, if anyone can't wait until then and they want to come pick it up at my place then I'll order now.

[tpete]

I can wait. Thanks again for the hard work. Terry

[mx_tang]

Hi Brian,

As far as the freeze dried stuff, it's not as good as the frozen variety. If you don't pre-soak it long enough, it just stays suspended on the surface of the water. The frozen cyclop-eeze ends up staying in suspension much longer where your fish and animals can consume it.

When I got my shipment of cyclop-eeze, they used ice-packs to keep the cyclop-eeze frozen. However, I ordered a lot of food, so the frozen food acted like one big ice-pack and helped keep the temperatures cold enough. When you cut up the cyclop-eeze, it will instantly thaw out because there's not very much water in the packaging and the cyclop-eeze is rather small (about 2-3x as large as baby brine shrimp). Envision freezing something with the consistency and size of sugar and having it thaw out; you'll soon realize that it's a bit messy to cut up, but definitely not impossible.

When my reef club wanted to order some cyclop-eeze, we ordered a few blocks and cut them in ¼ths. Then, I rebagged them with Foodsaver Vacuum Seal bags and sucked as much air out of the packaging as possible to prevent freezer burn. When I distributed the cyclop-eeze, I put them in a styrofoam box (similar to the boxes you get with your live fish orders) and bought a few bags of ice from the supermarket. Then, I taped the lid to the box to prevent any cold air from escaping. This method was effective to keep the cyclop-eeze frozen for approximately 1-4 hours. However, if you want to use dry ice, you can keep your food, whether cyclop-eeze, mysis shrimp, or anything frozen between 1-48hrs using this chart that I whipped up. I hope that helps.

<center>
<table border>
<tr><th><small>Weight of Frozen Food</small></th><th><small>4hr transit</small></th><th><small><br>
12hr transit</small></th><th><small>24hr transit</small></th><th><small><br>
24hr transit</small></th>
<tr><td><small><b>2lb food</b></small></td><td><small>2lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>4lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>8lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>16lb dry ice</small></td></tr>
<tr><td><small><b>5lb food</b></small></td><td><small>3lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>6lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>10lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>18lb dry ice</small></td></tr>
<tr><td><small><b>10lb food</b></small></td><td><small>4lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>8lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>14lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>24lb dry ice</small></td></tr>
<tr><td><small><b>20lb food </b></small></td><td><small>5lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>10lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>20lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>30lb dry ice</small></td></tr>
<tr><td><small><b>50lb food</b></small></td><td><small>10lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>20lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>35lb dry ice</small></td><td><small>50lb dry ice</small></td></tr>

</table>
</center>

[ReefAddict1]

Curious--How much of serving portion do all of you use per feeding? Say for an average 50-75 G tank of medium load, is it maybe a chunk the size of 1/2 sugar cube?

[Photon]

I have a 175 tank and I use it about 2 to 3 times per week and then rotate with other food. I use about two to three sugar cube size chunks or so each time. It does thaw out very quickly, even while you are cutting the piece off. The fish and corals really like it.

[Brian Prestwood]

Mike

Thanks for the tips. I am going to use a power saw to cut it so it won't get much of a chance to thaw. We have one of those vacuum packaging devices too. That seems like the ideal way to bag it.

[RustySnail]

Brian-

When is your order going to close? BARE would like to order with you; just let me know when the cutoff date will be... I'll put a post up on BARE tonight linking to this thread.

-Russ

[mx_tang]

Hi Brian,

You could use a power saw, but a sharp knife is just as effective, IMHO. Also, if the cyclop-eeze does happen to thaw, then you can place them back in the freezer with the foodsaver bags until they're frozen again. Once they're frozen, sealing them becomes really easy because none of the cyclop-eeze clogs up the vacuum. If you're using a commercial unit, then you don't need to worry about clogging up the vacuum or snorkel.

[JoeMack]

Hello Brian Prestwood,

I have never meet you but i'm a BARE member and was wondering if you can get me 100G and give it to Russ. Can I paypal you if that makes it easy? Thanks

Joey

[jimsar]

Hi Brian,
I'm also from BARE. Please put me in for 200 grams. Sent you PM.
Thanks,
Jim

[Nukeproof]

Hey Brian,

I'll take 200 grams if it is not too late and if Russ is up for the pick up for the BARE member. Please PM me to make arrangement for payment. Thanks!!!

Patrick

[mhazel]

Count me in...I'm interested too! I have a 30 gallon tank, so don't need that much.

Thanks!

[cyclgrl]

Hi Brian,

I'm another BARE member who'd be interested in 100g. Please let me know how you would like to receive payment.

Cindy

[andyman]

I'll take 2 750gram bars. I'm from BARE. Just let me know how to pay when you've got this organized.

andy

[RustySnail]

Brian-

I'll take 300g. Forgot to order for myself until now :)

-Russ

[Brian Prestwood]

Everyone

I'm going to place the order on Friday, 3/12, so I'll have time to resolve any problems that come up before the meeting.

[Brian Prestwood]

Everyone

I placed the order this morning.

It looks like we've got enough sold to order two cases. 13 of the 16 750g blocks are already sold (see below). I figure we'll sell the remaining 3 750g blocks at the meeting.

BARE folks, thanks for participating. Be sure to give your money to Russ before Friday, March 19th.

Here is the total...

Brian P 750g $30
Brent P 750g* $30
Photon 750g $30
TPete 750g $30
RasRobre 400g $20
TFP+Sag 750g* $30
JMDakan 750g* $30
TheReefGeek 400g $20
L13 200g $10
Headshrink 100g $5
jayson_219 100g $5
xdroccax 200g $10
HKS 400g $20
student 400g $20
Beerman 400g $20
skierguy 100g $5
JoeMack 100g B $5
jimsar 200g B $10
Nukeproof 200g B $10
mhazel 100g $5
cyclgrl 100g B $5
andyman 1500g B $60
RustySnail 300g B $15

Total 9700g $425

* - original order was changed
B - BARE member

FYI - With shipping two cases (16 750g blocks) came to $494.97.

[andyman]

Brian,

how did you plan on dividing the shipping cost?

andy

[JoeMack]

Thanks Brian

[headshrink]

Thanks Brian. Were you planning on settling/distributing at Friday's meeting? Unfortunately I am supposed to teach at a confrence... what else would be a convenient way to pay you and pick-up the food?

[RustySnail]

Originally posted by Brian Prestwood
BARE folks, thanks for participating. Be sure to give your money to Russ before Friday, March 19th.


Brian-

Is there any way I can pickup the order for BARE members on Monday or Tuesday? I was hoping to have the order for our members available to them at our meeting on Wed the 17'th. I can cover the cost for the BARE members who ordered. Otherwise; distribution to members in the BARE club who ordered would be posponed.

-Russ

[Brian Prestwood]

Russ

I PMed you.

[Brian Prestwood]

Andy

The shipping cost is in the cost I passed on.

[Brian Prestwood]

Headshrink

I live in Antelope. You are welcome to pick it up there. I work downtown. You can pick it up there too.

[headshrink]

Brian,
I will send my wife in my proxy. I don't think she will stay for the meeting because she'll have the baby, but she can pick it up for me at the begining of the meeting. Wish I could be there.
Bob

[sagitariuscbc]

brian,
i would buy some dry ice to hold the cyclop-eeze. it melts so fast it will all be melted by the time we all get home with it. it holds well in a freezer. but will only defrost in the refrigerator. they have some dry ice at the albertsons by my house.fyi its from penguin last i looked. will you let me know if you decide to pick up some dry ice. no need to fool with the small refrigerator. all you need is a ice chest and a few pieces of dry ice. i will buy my own if neccesary. the product should never be defrosted. says so right on the package keep frozen. also if you have not found a good way of cutting it, i would use a double handed cheese knife. hth
shawn:)

[RustySnail]

BARE Members-

Looks like the order won't arrive in time for our meeting; the order was shipped today and will arrive in Sac until tomorrow evening. We had hoped that the order would express ship on Monday for arrival on Tuesday. That's just how it goes sometimes; no problem we will just plan another day to distribute for BARE members.

-Russ

[Brian Prestwood]

Shawn

Thanks for the dry ice tip. I'll get some.

[Brian Prestwood]

Everyone

Its in.

I cut one of the 750g blocks into 7 100g+ blocks. It cuts easily with a carving knife. I'm using my postal scale to measure it. Everyone will get at least the amount they ordered.

My vacuum packing machine isn't working. I'm going to bring the factional blocks in zip lock bags.

[Brian Prestwood]

I put some into my liquid food doser. The fish like it.

[sagitariuscbc]

brian,
is it possible for you to pick up some extra dry ice? i'm sure the people who travel far to come to the meeting will be interested. i have been asked if i could pick up some for others. so if you already have it let me know. i'll pick up some myself.
thanks again for your efforts!
shawn

[chem-e]

I'll take 100g too if Russ doesn't mind bringing it back to the Bay Area with him.

JLMK

[RasBobre]

Gave my tank the smallest portion last night and the talk about this stuff is right, my chromis went into a frenzy eating. And I hear that things start looking better after using for a few days. thanks again for doing the group buy Brian! -Robert

[Brian Prestwood]

Russ brought six extra back with him.

[Brian Prestwood]

Robert

You are welcome. And thanks for the magazine.

[Dakan]

Thanks again Brian. Fish say thanks as well!

[Brian Prestwood]

John

You're welcome. And thanks to everyone for turning me onto this stuff. My corals are eating it up!!!

[andyman]

Hey Russ

I haven't heard anything from you so I was just wondering when were you planning on distributing the cyclopeeze?

andy

[brentp]

This stuff is great. I usually feed blender mush and it really gets stuck in the rocks and substrate; I couldn't find any of this stuff stuck to anything except my corals. It really stays in suspension well. A couple of corals that I needed to target feed the blender mush for it to stick to their polyps were able to catch the free floating cyclop-eeze.

[thereefgeek]

Killer food!! Everything in the tank loves it! Thanks Brian.

[tpete]

I first purchased a small amt of cyclopseeze from Ed when he was at the Dixon frag sesseion and have been feeding the tanklite amts at least every other day. The tank has never looked healither and three days ago my kkpair of percula clowns laid down their first eggs.I think it's the new food. I f only I knew how to properly deal with fish rearing. The little I saw on RC looked like more than I am ready for. Tery