any cinci guys out there?

[JohnL]

This thread was automatically split due to performance issues. You can find the rest of the thread here: http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=8935350#post8935350

[30mini]

No, $9 shipped isn't bad at all! I'll get that when the refund goes through in paypal. I'll get 2 orders of them so I have some for later too!!

[30mini]

well then... another split!

[Fusch13]

haha, man we are good!

[30mini]

You ever figure out what/when your trading with gopack?

[Fusch13]

i also am going to order my cyclo-peeze for 11.95 shipped tomorrow!

[30mini]

good stuff! That'll be a little added treat for the tank!

[Fusch13]

yeah, was thinking of trying that rods food!

[Fusch13]

nevermind would cost almost 40 dollars to ship!

[30mini]

Well then... probably cheaper to buy some stuff at the store, split the cost, and make that food from your book!

[Fusch13]

yeah i think so!@

[30mini]

Theres Jungle Jims down the street from me! I have a blender!

[Fusch13]

i have a blender too...ill bring the book in tomorrow, and we will try and figure how much itll be!

[30mini]

Sounds like a plan!

[Fusch13]

good deal!

[30mini]

Check this out! I mean, yea, it seems costly, but in the long run... talk about a time saver!!
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8935373#post8935373

[Fusch13]

looks cool!

[30mini]

I mean, you could set that up to do more a day, which for a larger tank would be better b/c he only does this for a 55 w/a 10 gal fuge and 10 gal sump. All it is is float switches, timers, and hoses!

[Fusch13]

yep....

[Fusch13]

Morning!

[Fusch13]

hmm, no Chris......hope all is good!

[30mini]

I'm here!! All is good... just my computer, that is less than a year old, crapped out on me this morning! I now have a POS for the time being while they get a replacemnt HD for the one I used to have

[Fusch13]

nice...i ordered my 11.95 shipped cycopleze! and mattlawson is stopping over tonight and some woman who emailed me interested in a frag also! Never seen her on reefcentral....

[Fusch13]

nice...i ordered my 11.95 shipped cycopleze! and mattlawson is stopping over tonight and some woman who emailed me interested in a frag also! Never seen her on reefcentral....oops cincyreef i mean

[Fusch13]

Also, contacted mdog to arrange pick up of 55 gallone this weekend!

[30mini]

Good deal man! Good deal!! Hope you get it all ready to go!! When you gonna get your basement cleaned out and at least stated to be ready for the new sump??

[30mini]

What is the lady's name that emailed you?? Is it Catalyst by chance??

[Fusch13]

well, im starting on clean up of unfinished side this weekend, but still have to work on the door to storage upstairs before, have to buy things for that!

[Fusch13]

no it wasnt, her name is Lisa

[Fusch13]

doesnt matter just another 15 dollars..haha

[30mini]

Hmmm... Did she give her SN by chance??
If you need any help, LMK, I'm free on Saturday b/c the wife is going to get her nails done!!

[Fusch13]

nope...ok, ill let you know, not sure what day or time as of yet!

[30mini]

Cool cool!

[30mini]

You may have to wait for a while for a response from Drew... he's probably in school now!

[Fusch13]

yeah he is

[30mini]

Yea, well, at least you know you can get it from him for sure! Now, see if Kurt has some extra glass that you can have to make your sump! That way the only thing you have to buy is the silicone!!

[Fusch13]

yeah true, but ill need several peices if i do the design i have!

[30mini]

He said that he had a lot!! I know that he didn't use a ton, and the more he has, the less you have to buy!

[Fusch13]

very true....if i dont have enough ill just by acylic

[Fusch13]

the longest pieces i need are for the refugium area!

[30mini]

You would be surprised at the price of glass!! If I were you, and your using glass for some, I would stay w/glass!! I know that you can buy some 1/4" glass precut to the size you want, and like 4 or 5 pieces, for less than $30!

[Fusch13]

oh ok nice...ill definently be asking for your help on this project and the plumbing!

[30mini]

You know I'm there!!! I love that kind of stuff!!!

[Fusch13]

the tricky part is taking the return to the sump and tee off too the refugium area!

[Fusch13]

and of course want to run a valve at the end of refugium so i can increase or decrease the flow...i have to think of what type of light i want over the tank......maybe a 250 watt halide!

[Fusch13]

i can make a fan bar to blow across the top of tank sometime too, and thinking of it i might want to wait on ATO till i can set it all up together, dont you thing!

[30mini]

a 250W halide would be nice, but if you can find a smaller one, that would be better! Probably something like a 150W or a 70W. Then, you just build some racks out of egg crate, and have the frags up higher toward the light.

[30mini]

Yea, ATO can wait for sure, b/c you can just drill into a baffle instead of the side of the tank.

[Fusch13]

true, but i think i might be able to find a 250 for a decent price here...then i know for sure i wouldnt have to worry where i placed it, and it can be a pendant and i can hang from board above

[Fusch13]

yeah the plan actually i thought of has a piece of glass on side of pump return area for a float valve to sit in!

[30mini]

Yea, but if you can find a 150W already in a pendant... even better!

[Fusch13]

very true!

[30mini]

And, you can just run a 10K bulb, b/c you don't really need that if you just have frags! They will grow better under 10K anyways.. and supplements aren't necessarily needed! But, you can always look for some T5's or even a PC ballast and run T5s

[Fusch13]

yeah because i want whats good to grow some good plants for the refugium

[30mini]

Yea, if you get a halide... get some mangroves!!

[Fusch13]

yeah i was thinking that!

[30mini]

That'd be awesome!! B/c then when i start my mangrove fuge up, I can get some buds from you!!

[Fusch13]

yeah, but where can i get some from?

[30mini]

Fosters and smith carries them, and you may be able to get some from Scott or maybe Marine Solutions can get them, or maybe Aquatics can get them?

[Fusch13]

ok, sounds good...be better if i can see them then order, depends on what shipping is i guess....

[Fusch13]

plus im going to want to pick up a PH monitor at some point of time, and maybe an orp monitor if i do ozone, but i do ozone i think id go with the redsea plus ozonizer model, with built in monitor!

[30mini]

Yea, so then we can make your probe holders and have them ready for the monitors

[Fusch13]

yeah had a place designed for that too..lol

[30mini]

Yea, that can be plastic... and I have some acrylic that we can use for that!

[Fusch13]

yeah figured that and the float valve holder

[30mini]

Yea... if you want to mount it upright then yae, if you want to mount it horizontal, then we need to drill into a baffle or the side of the tank.

[Fusch13]

upright would be just fine!

[30mini]

That can be done, no problem!!

[Fusch13]

whew, that sure will be adding some volume to my tank!

[30mini]

Yea, plus, a nice place for frag grow out... and more H20 for buffer, and easier W/C's!!!

[Fusch13]

yeah thats for sure....

[30mini]

I'm getting some tile tomorrow from a guy here at work that has some in his basement from when he re-did his kitchen!! He said, "How much you need" and I'm like, "how much you got?" So, he said he will bring in some for me to use!!

[Fusch13]

thats cool!...any hits on orange digi?

[30mini]

No, none yet... I'm gonna bring the frags I make to the meeting, and maybe I'll sell/trade for something there! It'd be nice to sell the stuff... b/c then I'm on my way to getting my dream tank!!

[Fusch13]

yeah true, ill be sending the BN and mille frag with you if i cant come to the meeting for Frankie!

[30mini]

Sounds good!! What all are you getting from him? You getting 2 frags, or are you trading one and selling the other?

[Fusch13]

two frags....the one your getting and some zoo's

[30mini]

ahhh... what kind of zoa's??
BTW... where'd you go?? Meeting?

[Fusch13]

dont know.....hopefully some nice ones.....i went to chipoltes!

[30mini]

you bastard!!!! I had salisbury steak and mac. and cheese... I have a GC to Chipotle that I still need to use!

[Fusch13]

Haha, yeah it was yummy....

[Fusch13]

havent been out to eat in weeks!

[30mini]

Yea, it's nice to go out and eat once in a while! They will order Chinese here every so often (sometimes 2-3 times a week :eek: ) and I'll get some General Tso's Chicken here and there! It's always good... better than a frozen dinner that's for sure!

[Fusch13]

yeah i bring in left overs, but if im planning on buying something, corals, tank stuff i normally dont..but considering i have the frag money coming in, i said what the hey

[30mini]

Yea, that's true!! I'm gonna talk to the wife when she is in a good modd and ask her if we just keep saving in the piggybank, if I can use that money for my new tank... that would be sweet!!!

[Fusch13]

yeah for sure!

[30mini]

But... knowing my wife, it will be "For Emergencies only" kind of money :(

[Fusch13]

yeah i was going to say thats what she'll say, you need to start your own secret tank starter fund!

[30mini]

Yea, I would like to... but it's kind of hard when she is always home when I'm selling the coral!

[Fusch13]

well, say you sold it for 5 even ig you sold it for 10

[30mini]

Yea, but then I have to make change... it's more complicated than you think! She's a little miser too... she will count the money in the piggy bank at every opportunity to make sure I haven't taken any money out!

[Fusch13]

thats when you open a credit uniion account or someting and tell the guys to paypal it to you..lol

[Fusch13]

yeah i arranged for everyone to come over on nights Chelle works..lol

[Fusch13]

the the 55 might go over to parents till im cleaned and ready to put it together..lol

[30mini]

Yea, might be a good idea! If my wife worked at night, I would do that too!! I can always do the paypal thing, it wouldn't bother me, but I like having cash in hand

[Fusch13]

well who doesnt but it sorta the same thing, but easier because it goes into a account , and could make interested, so it all goes to tank

[30mini]

Yea... I may have to do that. I have a credit union account with Kemba, and it's connected to my pay-pal right now. Maybe I'll tell people to do that!

[Fusch13]

it might be a good idea....thats where i get all my coral and tank money from my credit union! Which now i have 125.00 deposited in weekly

[30mini]

If I could deposit money into it... that would be nice! Although... I can transfer money from our main account to mine... but that's tracable w/the monthly statements

[Fusch13]

yeah it is!

[Fusch13]

yeah i have this set up through payroll to deposit that amount into savings credit union, and the rest into are joint checking

[30mini]

I can have a change done here at the mox w/the direct deposit stuff to have like $100 go into my account every other week. But... $100 is recognizable b/c I only bring home $863 per paycheck b/c I carry the insurance.

[Fusch13]

just do 25 or 50, its not like your buying tank for a couple mon if not longer!@

[Fusch13]

if you did 50 every two weeks, thats 1200 in a year!

[30mini]

Yea... when I get my raise here in a few weeks, I'll see how much more I make and base it upon that. I should be getting at least a 3% raise... so that will be nice!

[30mini]

My buddy here at work still wants to buy your sump from you... so the sooner we get the cleaning done, and the 55 done... the sooner you make an extra $60!

[Fusch13]

very true..lol

[30mini]

Start cleaning tonight, and just do a little every night till the weekend! Then we can do a major clean and set up!

[slovan]

Holy cow! You guys split this thread again? Well I think I'm 100+ posts behind. I suppose I better get to reading them! :D

[Fusch13]

haha

[30mini]

Catch up man... there's a lot of interesting stuff back there :lol:

[slovan]

Good stuff? All I've been reading about is you whining about buying a house! :lol:

[30mini]

Yea, it's good entertainment isn't it!!! Oh... you wanna hear a funny story about a house we looked at?? Well... too bad, I'm gonna tell it anyways :lol:

So, we pulled up, and the curb appeal wasn't the best. The driveway was all tore up, and the lawn didn't look soo good. We decided to go in, and take a look. We went in, and the house is empty b/c nobody is living there. We walked over to a door that went toward the garage. Opened it up, walked into a nice breezeway. Brand new bay window, good nice floor, and then a door to the outside and a door to the garage. We decide to go to the garage... well, the door to there isn't hung well, and is basically falling off the frame. Walking through, it's the old garage which was converted to a small workshop. Not bad size, but cluttered with junk. Then, there is a door to the garage... BIGGEST garage I have EVER seen. But it's cluttered w/junk. A dog cage, wires, just crap that looked like it should be thrown away. The garage is just a frame, and the roof had a hole in it at the peak!! And there's a door to the outside that is open b/c there is an elec. cord going outside to the pond. Basically, anyone could break in and squat!! So, the backyard is in bad shape. All ivy, fence broken, pool looks like crap, and the deck isn't bad. We go back inside, and the kitchen is TINY!! You can't open the fridge unless you stand against the wall! bad, bad, bad layout. to be continued....

[30mini]

So, there is two rooms back a small hallway off the kitchen and family room. Walking back, the rooms seem okay. Not lighted at all, and a few stains in the hardwood. I am in the hallway, and found the door to the basement. The girls won't go down, so I do anyways. Basement is as big as the house, and a door catches my eye b/c it has writing on it. I walk over, and it has a bolt lock going through the handle. The writing says "THIS DOOR TO REMAIN CLOSED AT ALL TIMES! DOOR TO REMAIN CLOSED AND LOCKED TO PREVENT FIRE!" I think to myself, 'This is a wood door. How is this going to stop a fire?' I also see to the left of the frame, holes in the wall. 'Well, that won't stop a fire either!' I then go upstairs, and tell the girls what I found. They laugh, and we go upstairs to the second floor. Nicely finished, much better than the rest of the house! Looks like someone tried to flip the house, ran out of money, and then left it! So, we leave right after that, and our real estate agent calls the agent that listed the house, and reemed her a new one for having doors unlocked, sh*t everywhere, and a high price! That was a fun house to look at!!

[slovan]

Awesome story Chris! :lol: Sounds like a "diamond in the rough" kind of deal. If the price it right, and you don't mind working on it, maybe it might be worth it?

[30mini]

No, not worth it! It looked worse than it sounded! And, they wanted $149,900 for the house :eek:

[slovan]

Oh wow, that's a lot of money considering you'll have to put about another 30K in it to make it nice. I was thinking a house in that shape would go for around $100K and you would be able to fix it up and still come in about right where you wanted to be. I guess they priced it like a diamond too eh? :D

[30mini]

Yea... If I were to buy it, I would go with a bid of maybe $65-70K!

[slovan]

That'd be cool if you could get it for that. Then you could really do a lot of work to it and make it to how you guys want it.

[30mini]

Yea... but the wife isn't too keen on doing a lot of work. She doesn't mind painting, and such... but when it comes to ther stuff, she put her foot down :(

[Kurt03]

sooo what was behind that door?

[30mini]

I don't know Kurt? I didn't look!

[lwalcott]

Hey Fusch after making all of that money you ought to join Cincyreef and come to the meeting and win some great prizes. Or you can just send your commision check to me. :D

[Fusch13]

I would for sure, but dont know if wife will let me, she is due in 3 weeks, and the whole "reef tank" thing is not her fav right now!...lol

[Fusch13]

I would for sure, but dont know if wife will let me, she is due in 3 weeks, and the whole "reef tank" thing is not her fav right now!...lol Most of money is going to a 55 gallon tank to turn into a sweet refug.sump!

[30mini]

Yea, if he can get out, he will come! The "Ol ball and chain" has him pretty good right now :lol: sorry ryan... had to say it!

[30mini]

Ryan, the date changed for the meeting... it's now the 24th instead of next week. So, you have 2 weeks to plan!!

[Fusch13]

oh i might be able to do that given the baby isnt came or coming....Also I think im trading the montipora for an 5 lb co2 tank and some frozen food, once i find out what type of frozen food it is, but the tank is something ive wanted being i want a back up so i dont have to have down time for co2, what do you think?

[Kurt03]

the 24th? another wed :( why cant it be tue or thur or fri lol

ryan i think a spare c02 is a good idea, then your not pressed to get the tank refilled right away when you notice its low. How big of a monti you trading for it?


oh and HI LONNIE hows it going? :D

[30mini]

I think the spare tank is a good idea! Then, like Kurt said, your not pressed to get the one filled! You have a while in between to take it to a place that exchanges/refills tanks! In fact, there is one down the street from my job! If you take Glendale Milford, and head toward Wyoming.. there'sa place called Sparkling Carbonic that will swap out tanks!

[Kurt03]

they re certified my old paintball nitrogen tank.

[lwalcott]

Hey Kurt how is everything doing in your tank.

[Kurt03]

so far so good :) getting good growth out of most stuff and levels are staying pretty consistant using limewater and adjusting with randys 2 part when needed.

Right now my 55 is pretty cramed with stuff waiting to go to the 150 when its ready. Slowly getting it all together. Do you still have your nano or get a big tank again? Did you get moved to the new house? What kind of corals are you keeping? i will have to get you a frag of something someday.

[lwalcott]

All I have for now is a 12 gallon nano. We're all moved into our new house so maybe sometime in the future I might get another tank. I'm just keeping some zoos, rics and some other softies. I do have a purple tip acro that was a small piece on one of the rocks that has really grown in the nano. It now has about 6, 2-3" pieces on it. Maybe I'll be able to get some frags from it soon.

[Kurt03]

yea knew you had a nano setup, didnt know if you were planing on setting up a big reef again.. there alot of work sometimes :(
what kind of lighting is on the nano?

[Fusch13]

well, told the guy that the co2 tank and some frozen foods would be good..i think thats fair for the montipora....We will see....! Morning all! Chris here is the ingredients for that food in the book!

[Fusch13]

Fresh Seafood
6 Whole fresh/thawed shrimp
12 fresh mussels
12 fresh clams
12 fresh oysters

Frozen Aquarium Food
1 package frozen sea urchin
1 package frozen fish roe
225 gm (8oz) decapsulated Artemia nauplii

Dried Seaweeds
1/2 cup

Powdered Sea Greens/ Antioxidants
10gm

Dried Aquarium Foods
Marine Flake Food

Liquid Vitamins
30 ml (2 tbsp) Selco, Super Selco or other marine vitamin/amino acid supplement

[30mini]

That sounds easy enough! Some foods may be hard to find, like the urchin and roe, butwewill be able to find it somewhere!

[Fusch13]

yeah ive been looking for them so far nothing...the fresh seafood and dried seaweed we could make a run to jungle jims....what do you think is powdered sea greens?

[Fusch13]

Geathers got signed to a 6 yr deal!

[30mini]

Powdered sea greens... bet we can find it at a GNC! If not, Jungle Jims may carry it! Most, if not all, of the stuff is probably at JJ's!

Good deal for the Bengals! We got our defensive end combo that should be good for next year. We still have Sam Adams, we just need to get our LB's back and a solid crew!!

[Fusch13]

well, justin smith isnt signed yet

[30mini]

He has a contract I thought?

[Fusch13]

the flake food, i forgot to add small pellet food like cyclopeeze...sure does have a little of everything

[Fusch13]

maybe we can do a run to JJ this weekend, try to price things out, maybe get some of it!

[Fusch13]

the liquid vitimans might be the most expensive maybe, 12 dollar bottle of reef plus maybe

[30mini]

I have a bottle of the liquid vitamins at home. Not sure I remember what it's called though

[30mini]

I have Vitachem at home! Almost a whole bottle too!

[Fusch13]

does it have amino acids in it?

[Fusch13]

might have to check that.....Also the powdered greens he mentions he gets it from health stores the brand he used was Aqua Greens

[30mini]

It does have amino acids in it
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=4998&N=2004+22763

[Fusch13]

good deal, one thing not need to buy......

[30mini]

Yea, I bought that stuff a while back, and it's in my food drawer at home in my closet.

[Fusch13]

Good deal, dont know how much the live stuff will cost

[30mini]

Shouldn't be too bad! I know that fresh shrimp runs about $6 or so per lb. But, 12 isn't nearly 1 lb!

[Fusch13]

id hope not...if so thats some big shrimp!

[30mini]

Yea, really! Well, we can see what the deal is on it. I bet they have the greens at JJ's too... they have a health food section!

[Fusch13]

probably do....just need to find the frozen stuff...the seaweed they should carry too

[30mini]

Yea, should be fairly easy to find. We are gonna get some crazy sh*t at JJ's... the people at the check out are gonna wonder what the hell we are doing!

[Fusch13]

lol...making a work out shake..haha

[30mini]

I'd do what my avatar is doing if i drank that!

[Fusch13]

yeah i hear you!

[30mini]

So, the wife was in a very ****y mood last night! Didn't even get a chance to ask her about the piggy bank... but then she writes me a note this morning that says "Took $20 out of the piggy bank b/c a kid won free lunch from Wendys today. It'll only be $2, but there was only a $20 in the bank." I was like GOD DAMNIT! If I took that money, I would have been shot! But if she does it, it's fine? What the hell?

[Fusch13]

Haha, welcome to marriage....thats how it works....and the 20 will be used!

[30mini]

Oh, I know the $20 will be used! I wasn't born yesterday

[Fusch13]

haha......lol, but she thinks you might be with that statement on the note!

[30mini]

Yea, she thinks I was also born in a barn!

[Fusch13]

yeah so does my wife, and i sure the hell dont do enough...lol

[30mini]

Yea, heard that! I don't help w/laundry, b/c she hates the way I fold clothes, and I don't know where she puts things, and she gets p*ssed when i put it in the wrong place. I also don't help w/dishes b/c she doesn't like how I was them. But, when I don't do these things... I get yelled at!

[30mini]

I love double standards!!

[Fusch13]

Oh, trust me i know i know, and the tank is always a thin ice thing..lol which i know you know....

[30mini]

Yea... it's always a thin-ice thing, UNLESS I sell something out of it, and want to use the money that I just made for it... but any other time, yes, I know how it is!

[Fusch13]

haha..yeah i cant believe she didnt say a word about the large coral in tank..lol

[30mini]

Well... your making money off of it, so tell her that if she does say something!!

[30mini]

Hey, I wanted to ask you, how is the orange digi and the galaxia doing in your tank?? You said the zoas are doing well, but you never said anything about the others!

[Fusch13]

I doubt she will, she would of by now! salinity is around 22, maybe 23 now

[30mini]

Next time I'm over, I'll bring my refract so we can check it w/that!

[Fusch13]

yeah that would be great!

[Fusch13]

if this coral food is cheap to make and seems all our coral and fish thrive from it, you know we could sell it

[30mini]

Yea, we could sell it to people on Cincyreef first, to see how much they like it, and then go from there!

[30mini]

Hows the galaxia and orange digi doing?? Notice any growth on the digi at all??

[Fusch13]

not as of yet, just moved the digi up, the galaxia polyps are out!

Hey look we could get these to freeze the food into cubes!

http://www.kitchenfantasy.com/shopping_cart/minicubes.html

[Fusch13]

yeah that was my thought on selling, of course first batch is ours! plus itll tell us how much itll cost to do a batch and how much it makes!

[30mini]

Those minicube trays are pretty cool!! Now, we would just need to figure out a packaging method!

[30mini]

Well, I'm off to a dentist appt. Be back around 1 or earlier!!:D

[Fusch13]

for time being, depending on the cube size, if its the same size as the ones in frozen food trays, we can just figure that many cubes and do ziplock baggies for beginning, and if it catchs and people like the stuff we can look into something better!

[Fusch13]

whered you go man?

[30mini]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8953619#post8953619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fusch13
whered you go man?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8952974#post8952974 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 30mini
Well, I'm off to a dentist appt. Be back around 1 or earlier!!:D

[30mini]

You must have skipped over that post!

[Fusch13]

yeah didnt see that

[30mini]

It's all good!

[Fusch13]

clean teeth ??


Matt, pm'd me which he said the frag looked great and PE is great!

[30mini]

Yea, teeth are clean :D see?

Good deal for matt then! I sold him that pink base, green polyp stag that's doing well also!

[Fusch13]

yeah he mentioned that

[30mini]

Yea... this is his first venture into SPS stuff... so, good deal for him that it's going well!!

[Fusch13]

yeah, he said he ha a tank crash....also

[30mini]

yea... that was a while back i think

[Fusch13]

yeah, so he said..lol

[30mini]

Yea... his tank is doing well now... he has a nice set up to be honest! His is plumbed to his basement, and goes first to his fuge, then to a cryptic fuge, then to the sump and back up!

[Fusch13]

very nice!

[30mini]

I'm thinking about the cryptic fuge for my big set up... It seems like a really nice thing to have for sure!! I think I heard from Lonnie that someone even empty's their skimmate into the cryptic fuge b/c it feeds the sponges and things that live in there

[Fusch13]

hmm, interesting

[30mini]

Yea, really... you have a chance to set one up b/c your re-doing your plumbing! Find a used 20L tank, and we can use that for it!! I'll have to ask for a cryptic fuge demo or talk at one of the meetings b/c I'm interested to know more about them for sure!!

[Fusch13]

yeah ive never heard of it before

[30mini]

Matt has his totally painted black, and has foil over top to keep minimal light coming in!

[Fusch13]

whats the benefits of it?

[30mini]

Water filtration... the sponges clean the water! it also helps in the pod population

[Fusch13]

hmm, ok, couldnt you even do one as small as a 10 gallon

[30mini]

Yea!! As small as you want, but the reason I say 20 is b/c of the glass thickness... you can drill a 20 easier than a 10!

[30mini]

Here's a small article written by Tyree
http://www.dynamicecomorphology.com/
Click on environmental gradient, then cryptic zone

[30mini]

Very interesting little blurb if you ask me!

[Fusch13]

ok, so if this guy is serious, i offered my montipora for a co2 tank 5 lber, and a 20 gallon tank...which i just asked if that sounded like a good trade!

[30mini]

Maybe he'll take it?? That'd be a good trade b/c then you could set up a fuge or a cryptic fuge with that 20!

[Fusch13]

says you cant let large particlite in the cryptic zone

[30mini]

Right... which means you would need a sponge catching stuff before it goes into the cryptic zone

[30mini]

Or something else like cheese cloth, a filter sock, or something like that!!

[Fusch13]

well, the fug was to be built into the 55 gal, which will be close to 20 gals itself, leaving plenty of room for equipment. and the 20 i thought we could try a cryptic fuge....

[Fusch13]

yeah thats what i was thinking, or we could get a cap for pvc and fine hole drill it....or drill holes and adhere fine mesh to it!

[30mini]

Yea, what we could do, is tee off the drain from the tank, and have a ball valve on it to regulate the flow going to the fuge... which would have to be higher than the sump so that we could drill into it to have it drain down to the sump.

[Fusch13]

what and where does the cryptic feed and dump too

[30mini]

It would be fed from the main display, and then dump to the fuge

[Fusch13]

so the one line would be split three ways, one to sump, one to fuge, and one to cyptic, then fuge would dump into sump return that way, but i would have cryptic and return from sump tee, to tank
i think i got that right

[30mini]

Yea, what you do is put a tee on the drain that will go to the cryptic and then down to another tee that would go to the fuge and the main sump chamber. The return would just go straight to the tank with no tees of any sort, unless you put one on there for w/c's that always has a closed ball valve that can be opened at any time for w/c

[Fusch13]

thats a decent idea for wc, so where the cyrptic fuge return too? the sump?

[30mini]

Yea, it returns to the sump, or the fuge, whichever you want it to

[Fusch13]

oh ok, so that means ill need a pump.....

[30mini]

a pump? Why not just use gravity and drill into the side of the tank?

[Fusch13]

gravity from cryptic to sump, could work

[30mini]

Yea, make the cryptic the same height as the drain is horizontal, then have the cryptic drain to the sump

[Fusch13]

hmm, ok, we will work on that! Where should i get my valves from?

[Fusch13]

and should i increase the 3/4" drain to a larger?

[30mini]

Get some ball valves from lowes or the depot whenever you go to get your plumbing! They aren't that expensive. I'd say bump it up to 1" after the 90 to go through the wall, and then back down to 3/4" for each tee

[30mini]

Tee it off with 1" tees. Probably want to just stay with 1" after the drain, and after the cryptic fuge, make the line 1/2" with a ball valve so there is less flow going to there.

[Fusch13]

so, go 3/4", 90 elbow to 1" through wall, then to 1" tee to 3/4?

[Fusch13]

ok, so 3/4 90 to 1" carry 1 inch thooughout, and after one tee to cryptic reduce to 1/2" to restrict flow to cryptic fuge...

[30mini]

Let's do it like this:
3/4" drain from tank, to a 45 elbow to 1" pipe to 1" 45 elbow to straight through the wall to a 1" tee.
From the tee, get a 1"-1/2" reducer fitting, then a ball valve, then enters the cryptic fuge. From the cryptic fuge, use 3/4" drain to sump/fuge.
From other part of tee, let it go to another 1" tee, which will have ball valves on both of them. Use all 1" pipe to feed the fuge and the main sump chamber. So, you really only reduce to 1/2" to go the cryptic fuge, and then a 3/4" pipe coming out of the cryptic fuge to the sump.

[Fusch13]

yeah i think we were thinking the same thing..lol

[Fusch13]

just have to wait to see if this guy is serious or not about trade!

[30mini]

Yea, if he is, good deal!!

[Fusch13]

yeah i think so

[30mini]

Is it time to go home yet???

[Kurt03]

Yahooooo i got my panworld pump and got it all setup :D Man this thing is nice, small quite and moves a ton of water :D :D :D :D

You have no idea how happy i am to get that maxijet out of there :lol:

[30mini]

You got rid of the quietone? Isn't a panworld pump an external pump?? That would mean that you drilled your sump. Where's the pictures man :confused:... wheres the pictures

[Kurt03]

sumps not drilled, plumbing goes up and over the sump. I still have the quite one and am waiting on some replacement parts from them. I will prob fix it and test the two of them and keep the one i like the most and sell the other. What do you want pics of?

[30mini]

I want pics of everything man... all that you have done so far!! I like pictures... you know that!!

[Fusch13]

Morning all, Trade is going down with gopack, im getting a 5lb co2 tank and a 29 gallon tank..not a bad deal for the coral!

[30mini]

that's a good deal right there!! A 29 is a tall tank, so you may want to use it as a QT

[Fusch13]

so dont us it as cyrptic? what should i use on cryptic?

[Fusch13]

15 gallon?

[Fusch13]

also i was reading a CORA members thread this morning and he has a cryptic fuge, and he runs a red light and actinic on it, i pmd him asking about the lights...also he painted three side black and the viewing side has a removable panel, so he can remove to view, which i think is a nice idea..what do you think?